
From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:36 EDT 2007 Article: 543271 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1353955 can.general:355715 soc.culture.canada:543271 ab.general:110371 calgary.general:352592 edm.general:331718 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John BuchanNewsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general,edm.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Whitmore & Judges Deserve Death!! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 86 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:37:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154479040 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:37:20 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:37:20 MDT Whitmore, the repat sex offender of children, together with the judges who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all deserve the death penalty!! In open population in any max prison, the prisoners would give this beast the justice whicvh the slimy judges failed to do. Why was Whitmore nott declared an habitual criminal, and sentenced to life in prison, with no parole, as stipulated by law? Why, when Whitmore kept repeating this heinous crime, did not one of the clearly incompetent judges, presumably politically correct, not give him a deterrent sentence? How many children need to be molested, before a judge gets the picture? Perhaps if a judge had had his son or daughter molested, would that have caught his concern about the victims and the general public, instead of concern for filth such as Whitmore? Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately execute natural justice? Remember - an executed criminal will never re-offend!! On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:29:58 GMT, "Aeroplan" wrote: >http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/08/01/boy-found.html > >A 10-year-old boy, one of two youths at the the centre of a massive search >after allegedly being abducted by a convicted sex offender, has been found >and is alive and well. > >RCMP said Tuesday that Zachary Miller of Whitewood, Sask., was found near >Kipling, Sask., about 170 kilometres southeast of Regina. > >"We now have Zachary with us and we are reuniting him with his family," RCMP >spokeswoman Heather Russell said. "He appears to be in good condition." > >Police said a resident of the Kipling area spotted an abandoned van that >matched the description of the vehicle police had been searching for. While >the person was investigating, a young boy ran out of a farm building, >located about 17 kilometres east of Kipling. > >Police immediately cordoned off the area and an emergency response team was >dispatched, said RCMP spokeswoman Heather Russell at around 2:20 p.m CT. > >Jordan Bruyere, a 14-year-old boy from Winnipeg, and Miller were believed to >be with Peter Robert Joseph Whitmore, a convicted child abuser seen in the >Whitewood area in the past few days. > >Police believe Whitmore and Bruyere are still on the property. > >Police issued an Amber Alert after Zachary disappeared from Whitewood >Sunday. They also issued a Canada-wide arrest warrant for Whitmore for >abduction. > >Whitmore has spent time in prision for sex crimes involving children. He >served 16 months in custody after being convicted in Ontario in 1993 of >abduction and sexual offences involving four boys. > >Just nine days after he was released, he took an eight-year-old girl from >Guelph, Ont., to Toronto. He received a 56-month sentence for a sex offence >involving the girl. > >While there was joy for the Miller family Tuesday afternoon, the Manitoba >family of Jordan Bruyere was still waiting for good news. > >Earlier in the day, a Whitewood resident said he had met with Whitmore and >Bruyere on July 28 and the boy appeared to be in good physical condition. > >Kevin White, who has a car dealership in the town, said a man whose van >needed a tire came in to his business accompanied by an aboriginal youth. >White said he later saw photos on the internet and confirmed he saw Whitmore >and Bruyere. > >Jordan's aunt phoned him last night to find out what happened. > >"I basically told them he didn't seem to be physically abused," White said. >"There were no bruises or anything. He wasn't visibly upset. He was just >very quiet." > > > From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:37 EDT 2007 Article: 543272 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1353956 can.general:355716 soc.culture.canada:543272 ab.general:110372 calgary.general:352593 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Time to Execute Whitmore and Judges? Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <57adnUC4KJtIR1LZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@wightman.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 96 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:39:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1154479154 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:39:14 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:39:14 MDT Whitmore, the repat sex offender of children, together with the judges who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all deserve the death penalty!! In open population in any max prison, the prisoners would give this beast the justice whicvh the slimy judges failed to do. Why was Whitmore nott declared an habitual criminal, and sentenced to life in prison, with no parole, as stipulated by law? Why, when Whitmore kept repeating this heinous crime, did not one of the clearly incompetent judges, presumably politically correct, not give him a deterrent sentence? How many children need to be molested, before a judge gets the picture? Perhaps if a judge had had his son or daughter molested, would that have caught his concern about the victims and the general public, instead of concern for filth such as Whitmore? Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately execute natural justice? Remember - an executed criminal will never re-offend!! On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:50:55 -0400, "Spokesman" wrote: >"Aeroplan" wrote in message >news:GBQzg.182517$S61.143933@edtnps90... >> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/08/01/boy-found.html >> >> A 10-year-old boy, one of two youths at the the centre of a massive search >> after allegedly being abducted by a convicted sex offender, has been found >> and is alive and well. >> >> RCMP said Tuesday that Zachary Miller of Whitewood, Sask., was found near >> Kipling, Sask., about 170 kilometres southeast of Regina. >> >> "We now have Zachary with us and we are reuniting him with his family," >RCMP >> spokeswoman Heather Russell said. "He appears to be in good condition." >> >> Police said a resident of the Kipling area spotted an abandoned van that >> matched the description of the vehicle police had been searching for. >While >> the person was investigating, a young boy ran out of a farm building, >> located about 17 kilometres east of Kipling. > >Thankfully he was able to escape from the homosexual that had abducted >him. After molesting so many children one would wonder why he was >still alive and wandering about without any supervision. > >> Police immediately cordoned off the area and an emergency response team >was >> dispatched, said RCMP spokeswoman Heather Russell at around 2:20 p.m CT. >> >> Jordan Bruyere, a 14-year-old boy from Winnipeg, and Miller were believed >to >> be with Peter Robert Joseph Whitmore, a convicted child abuser seen in the >> Whitewood area in the past few days. >> >> Police believe Whitmore and Bruyere are still on the property. >> >> Police issued an Amber Alert after Zachary disappeared from Whitewood >> Sunday. They also issued a Canada-wide arrest warrant for Whitmore for >> abduction. >> >> Whitmore has spent time in prision for sex crimes involving children. He >> served 16 months in custody after being convicted in Ontario in 1993 of >> abduction and sexual offences involving four boys. >> >> Just nine days after he was released, he took an eight-year-old girl from >> Guelph, Ont., to Toronto. He received a 56-month sentence for a sex >offence >> involving the girl. >> >> While there was joy for the Miller family Tuesday afternoon, the Manitoba >> family of Jordan Bruyere was still waiting for good news. >> >> Earlier in the day, a Whitewood resident said he had met with Whitmore and >> Bruyere on July 28 and the boy appeared to be in good physical condition. >> >> Kevin White, who has a car dealership in the town, said a man whose van >> needed a tire came in to his business accompanied by an aboriginal youth. >> White said he later saw photos on the internet and confirmed he saw >Whitmore >> and Bruyere. >> >> Jordan's aunt phoned him last night to find out what happened. >> >> "I basically told them he didn't seem to be physically abused," White >said. >> "There were no bruises or anything. He wasn't visibly upset. He was just >> very quiet." From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:37 EDT 2007 Article: 543313 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1354113 can.general:355728 soc.culture.canada:543313 ab.general:110378 calgary.general:352623 edm.general:331760 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general,edm.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Whitmore & His Judges Deserve Death!! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:06:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1154531219 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:06:59 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:06:59 MDT On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:06:24 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann wrote: >On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:37:20 GMT, John Buchan > wrote: > >>Whitmore, the repat sex offender of children, together with the judges >>who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all >>deserve the death penalty!! > >Why stop there, what about the politicians that created the laws? Then >you have to deal with the public that elected the politicians that >created the laws and appointed the judges. The crooked judges who continued to allow this homo child sex molester out on the streeets, time after time, are the ones who need to be put into cells together with their pet molester!! They had the power to designate him an habitual offender, whereby he is entitled to life in prison. Put into the general population he would be no problem within 24 hours! >>Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately >>execute natural justice? > >Oh, I see, you are letting the public off the hook. How convenient >because there would be no one left to act as hangman. If lynch law was applicable, there would be no lack of people to hang him, and his judges!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:37 EDT 2007 Article: 543361 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1354386 can.general:355762 soc.culture.canada:543361 ab.general:110384 calgary.general:352661 edm.general:331833 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general,edm.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Whitmore & His Judges Deserve Death!! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <12v3d2l7cqcrlobmufr51u7ud20bncg6vt@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:38:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154612333 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:38:53 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:38:53 MDT On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:06:24 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann wrote: >On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:37:20 GMT, John Buchan > wrote: > >>Whitmore, the repat sex offender of children, together with the judges >>who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all >>deserve the death penalty!! > >Why stop there, what about the politicians that created the laws? Then >you have to deal with the public that elected the politicians that >created the laws and appointed the judges. The crooked judges who continued to allow this homo child sex molester out on the streeets, time after time, are the ones who need to be put into cells together with their pet molester!! They had the power to designate him an habitual offender, whereby he is entitled to life in prison. Put into the general population he would be no problem within 24 hours! >>Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately >>execute natural justice? > >Oh, I see, you are letting the public off the hook. How convenient >because there would be no one left to act as hangman. If lynch law was applicable, there would be no lack of people to hang him, and his judges!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:37 EDT 2007 Article: 543362 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1354387 can.general:355763 soc.culture.canada:543362 ab.general:110385 calgary.general:352662 edm.general:331834 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general,edm.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Whitmore & Judges Deserve Death!! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 86 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:39:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154612340 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:39:00 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:39:00 MDT Whitmore, the repat sex offender of children, together with the judges who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all deserve the death penalty!! In open population in any max prison, the prisoners would give this beast the justice whicvh the slimy judges failed to do. Why was Whitmore nott declared an habitual criminal, and sentenced to life in prison, with no parole, as stipulated by law? Why, when Whitmore kept repeating this heinous crime, did not one of the clearly incompetent judges, presumably politically correct, not give him a deterrent sentence? How many children need to be molested, before a judge gets the picture? Perhaps if a judge had had his son or daughter molested, would that have caught his concern about the victims and the general public, instead of concern for filth such as Whitmore? Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately execute natural justice? Remember - an executed criminal will never re-offend!! On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:29:58 GMT, "Aeroplan" wrote: >http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/08/01/boy-found.html > >A 10-year-old boy, one of two youths at the the centre of a massive search >after allegedly being abducted by a convicted sex offender, has been found >and is alive and well. > >RCMP said Tuesday that Zachary Miller of Whitewood, Sask., was found near >Kipling, Sask., about 170 kilometres southeast of Regina. > >"We now have Zachary with us and we are reuniting him with his family," RCMP >spokeswoman Heather Russell said. "He appears to be in good condition." > >Police said a resident of the Kipling area spotted an abandoned van that >matched the description of the vehicle police had been searching for. While >the person was investigating, a young boy ran out of a farm building, >located about 17 kilometres east of Kipling. > >Police immediately cordoned off the area and an emergency response team was >dispatched, said RCMP spokeswoman Heather Russell at around 2:20 p.m CT. > >Jordan Bruyere, a 14-year-old boy from Winnipeg, and Miller were believed to >be with Peter Robert Joseph Whitmore, a convicted child abuser seen in the >Whitewood area in the past few days. > >Police believe Whitmore and Bruyere are still on the property. > >Police issued an Amber Alert after Zachary disappeared from Whitewood >Sunday. They also issued a Canada-wide arrest warrant for Whitmore for >abduction. > >Whitmore has spent time in prision for sex crimes involving children. He >served 16 months in custody after being convicted in Ontario in 1993 of >abduction and sexual offences involving four boys. > >Just nine days after he was released, he took an eight-year-old girl from >Guelph, Ont., to Toronto. He received a 56-month sentence for a sex offence >involving the girl. > >While there was joy for the Miller family Tuesday afternoon, the Manitoba >family of Jordan Bruyere was still waiting for good news. > >Earlier in the day, a Whitewood resident said he had met with Whitmore and >Bruyere on July 28 and the boy appeared to be in good physical condition. > >Kevin White, who has a car dealership in the town, said a man whose van >needed a tire came in to his business accompanied by an aboriginal youth. >White said he later saw photos on the internet and confirmed he saw Whitmore >and Bruyere. > >Jordan's aunt phoned him last night to find out what happened. > >"I basically told them he didn't seem to be physically abused," White said. >"There were no bruises or anything. He wasn't visibly upset. He was just >very quiet." > > > From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:38 EDT 2007 Article: 543366 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us tor.general:327264 edm.general:331839 can.general:355765 soc.culture.canada:543366 calgary.general:352665 ab.general:110386 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-12!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: tor.general,edm.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,calgary.general,ab.general Subject: Re: Why Cop Mike Boyd Refused as Chief of Police Toronto? Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 61 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:34:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154619284 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:34:44 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:34:44 MDT On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, "TJ" wrote: >get a grip will you...over 100 bodies...ya right...show me the stats on that >1...just because they are missing that doesn't prove they are dead, they >lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need >better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets. It is the media who have tabulated more than 100 bodies of sex trade workers in the past few years. >suuurrreeeeeee....we are all wondering if it's a cop, what BS.... > >and how do you know it's "1" killer or a cop for that matter...maybe more >than 1....your watching to much tv my friend..... Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop would easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would not bother to investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted over the past 20 years! >better get your facts straight....as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job >since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder >Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to >$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh....... You failed to answer the question in the header - why was he constantly REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO? Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough there? >there's nothing to wonder, he's doing a great job and has the respect of the >people in this city and from the members of the EPS...it's the members of >the EPS I would wonder about. Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you? >they all seem taser happy these days.... Including the kids of the former chief, don't forget... >"Asterix" wrote in message >news:6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com... >> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of >> Police Toronto? >> >> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know. >> >> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to >> wonder also. >> >> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in >> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in >> Toronto? >> >> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex >> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!! >> >> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering >> whether the killer is one of the cops? > From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:38 EDT 2007 Article: 543367 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us tor.general:327265 edm.general:331840 can.general:355766 soc.culture.canada:543367 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: tor.general,edm.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada Subject: Why Cop Mike Boyd Refused as Chief of Police Toronto? Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:34:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154619246 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:34:06 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:34:06 MDT Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of Police Toronto? If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know. Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to wonder also. Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in Toronto? In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!! But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering whether the killer is one of the cops? From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:39 EDT 2007 Article: 543368 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:331841 ab.general:110387 can.general:355767 can.taxes:97418 soc.culture.canada:543368 tor.general:327267 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:54:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1154620476 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:54:36 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:54:36 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:39 EDT 2007 Article: 543369 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:331842 edm.politics:12561 ab.general:110388 can.general:355768 soc.culture.canada:543369 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: Edmonton Council OVERPAID!! Cut Their Pay!! or better yet, FIRE them! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:56:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1154620602 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:56:42 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:56:42 MDT On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew wrote: >On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks >wrote: >>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have >>long suspected. >>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE, >>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they >>are endorsing. >>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of >>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying. >>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!! >>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein, >>Premier of Alberta!! >>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working >>councvillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES >>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS! >>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire >>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments. >>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, >>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few. >>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment? >I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can >just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they >can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter >who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton >is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in >Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this >city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind >of money most people NEED to have a university degree. You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of billions of dollars. You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER. Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a successful business. Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for just cause!! No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 543449 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1354948 can.general:355970 soc.culture.canada:543449 ab.general:110396 tor.general:327466 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,tor.general Subject: Re: Books in Canada STILL a ripoff! You Get JEWED! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <12d6vj413knb74@corp.supernews.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:00:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154718029 64.59.135.176 (Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:00:29 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:00:29 MDT On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01" wrote: >Leftists = traitors wrote in message >news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S. Our dollars are within 13% of >> each other. >> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S. Of >> course, we KNOW >> who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers. >> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't >> re-price books falls on deaf >> ears. It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and >> their cabal. > >They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with >the globalist Bilderberg gangsters. They should be watched in case they are >involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and >spying. They could be sending and recieving more than books. And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary definition!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 543539 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1355321 can.general:356101 soc.culture.canada:543539 tor.general:327583 ab.general:110398 calgary.general:352725 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,tor.general,ab.general,calgary.general Subject: Re: Edmonton more murderous than Toronto Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 39 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:43:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1154792600 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:43:20 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:43:20 MDT Deadmonton DOES NOT have a population of over 900,000!! The city population is just over 500,000!! The city is using the fictitious figure, to minimise the murder rate in town!! Don't forget, that the last 4 cop chiefs have all been canned in disgrace! Plus, the crooked cops still have not charged the serial killer of over 100 women, which is making many think that perhaps it is one of the rogue cops doing all the extra murders!! In fact the new chief this year is from Toronto. He was repeatedly REFUSED the position of chief there. Mind you, as soon as he leaves Toronto, Bill Blair the new chief, goes out and arrests 78 gang members!! Wonder why Mike Code did nothing about this while he was there as deputy chief? Apart from all the convictions against city cops for torture, with more cops constantly being charged, and killing innocent victims like last week!! On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:27:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky" wrote: >Edmonton records 37 homicides in 2005 while Toronto records 78. Considering >the relative populations (est. 2004) of these two cities, the per 100,000 >homicide rate works out to: > Edmonton - ( 37 / 947,311 ) * 10^5 = 3.9 > Toronto - ( 78 / 2,518,772 ) * 10^5 = 3.1 >Oh what a shocker! You're 25% more likely to become a victim of homicide in >Edmonton than Toronto. What makes me laugh is the Alberta crackpot who >claims crime and homicide is somehow special to "Cherrana" and that the >problem is mysteriously attributable to "socialism." From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 543540 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332168 ab.general:110399 can.general:356102 soc.culture.canada:543540 calgary.general:352726 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,calgary.general Subject: Re: Superstore Prefers Paying Maritimers $5,000 to Paying Locals!! Offers Only $1000 to Locals! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <7d6Hf.27912$VV4.252920@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <9o5su11d566pnhv4itgltmna2c1bh5vri2@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:44:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154792641 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:44:01 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:44:01 MDT On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:05:11 GMT, Carter wrote: >Tiberius Rex wrote: >> The key question was: >> Why should foreigners - i.e. non-Albertans be offered an extra >> $5,000.00 not offered to locals? >Probably because it wouldn't cost that much to get an Albertan to >relocate to Alberta. You talk as if the $5000 dollars is a gift. It >is not, it is relocation costs. It IS a gift, since Superstore refuses to pay such largesse to local residents of Alberta, to relocate to Deadmonton or wherever their jobs are!! In fact, Stupidstore is NOW offering a $1,000 bonus to new employees, to be paid AFTER working 1000 hours. want to bet they will terminate workers just before 1000 hours, just to avoid paying? >BTW, Maritimers are not exactly foreigners, the happen to live in the >same country as Albertans. >Carter As far as residing in Alberta, they are foreigners. >> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:55:47 GMT, Carter wrote: >>> Tiberius Rex wrote: >>>> Media this past week have been reporting that Westfair Foods, >>>> operating as Superstore in Alberta have been trying to recruit people >>>> from the Maritimes, to work in their stores in Alberta. >>>> >>>> They are offering Maritimers, besides wages: >>>> free round-trip airfares >>>> one month rent paid by Superstore >>>> all moving/relocation costs >>>> >>>> These add up to around an extr5a $5,000 - which Superstore >>>> is NOT offering to workers in Alberta!! >>> Why would Superstore make that offer to Albertans? Albertans already >>> live in Alberta, Don't they? >>> >>> Carter >> From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:40 EDT 2007 Article: 543544 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1355359 can.general:356113 soc.culture.canada:543544 ab.general:110400 calgary.general:352727 edm.general:332177 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,calgary.general,edm.general Subject: Re: 10-year-old boy found alive in Sask. town - Whitmore & His Judges Deserve Death!! Now He Gets HOMOLKA-type Deal? Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:47:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154796465 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:47:45 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:47:45 MDT On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:06:24 -0700, Alfred Kaufmann wrote: >On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:37:20 GMT, John Buchan > wrote: >>Whitmore, the repeat sex offender of children, together with the judges >>who kept letting him out and gave him minimal sentences to boot, all >>deserve the death penalty!! >Why stop there, what about the politicians that created the laws? Then >you have to deal with the public that elected the politicians that >created the laws and appointed the judges. The crooked judges who continued to allow this homo child sex molester out on the streeets, time after time, are the ones who need to be put into cells together with their pet molester!! They had the power to designate him an habitual offender, whereby he is entitled to life in prison. Put into the general population he would be no problem within 24 hours! >>Perhaps it is now time for lynch law, where the public can immediately >>execute natural justice? >Oh, I see, you are letting the public off the hook. How convenient >because there would be no one left to act as hangman. If lynch law was applicable, there would be no lack of people to hang him, and his judges!! Now the media report that Whitmore has made a HOMOLKA-type deal, to avoid getting jail for life!! Whoever is involved in this deal, should join Whitmore on death row!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:41 EDT 2007 Article: 543545 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332178 ab.general:110401 can.general:356114 can.taxes:97456 soc.culture.canada:543545 tor.general:327591 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:48:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154796506 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:48:26 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:48:26 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:41 EDT 2007 Article: 543599 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332313 ab.general:110405 can.general:356275 can.taxes:97481 soc.culture.canada:543599 tor.general:327732 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:52:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154875946 64.59.135.176 (Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:52:26 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:52:26 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:42 EDT 2007 Article: 543691 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1356245 can.general:356366 soc.culture.canada:543691 ab.general:110408 tor.general:327840 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,tor.general Subject: Re: Books in Canada STILL a ripoff! You Get JEWED! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <4lued2p61nbkgo065rnqipmsl3alrq111r@4ax.com> References: <1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <12d6vj413knb74@corp.supernews.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:39:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1154972353 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:39:13 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:39:13 MDT On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01" wrote: >Leftists = traitors wrote in message >news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S. Our dollars are within 13% of >> each other. >> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S. Of >> course, we KNOW >> who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers. >> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't >> re-price books falls on deaf >> ears. It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and >> their cabal. > >They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with >the globalist Bilderberg gangsters. They should be watched in case they are >involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and >spying. They could be sending and recieving more than books. And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary definition!! From JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 543693 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332410 ab.general:110409 can.general:356367 can.taxes:97548 soc.culture.canada:543693 tor.general:327841 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!nntp.csufresno.edu!tethys.csu.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: John Buchan Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: JohnBuchan@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:40:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1154972403 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:40:03 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:40:03 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 543776 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332496 ab.general:110413 can.general:356453 can.taxes:97581 soc.culture.canada:543776 tor.general:327926 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Repost Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:50:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155052217 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:50:17 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:50:17 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:43 EDT 2007 Article: 543781 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332503 ab.general:110416 can.general:356461 can.taxes:97586 soc.culture.canada:543781 tor.general:327935 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Repost Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <6tfhd2dlimlvjjarec7qaignd2mplsr8vn@4ax.com> References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:46:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155055609 64.59.135.176 (Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:46:49 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:46:49 MDT Is your mind so feeble, that you have no comments to make on the subject header? How do YOu feel about the crooked Edmonton cops? Don't hold back - are you in favor of their criminality? On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:31:16 GMT, "PV" wrote: >"WyattEarp" wrote in message >news:jkchd2t6lhn0fof9vrrghcefqt4equ0i3m@4ax.com... >> Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges >> against the crooked Edmonton cops? >> > >What gives, not even the middle of the month and another name change? >Afraid that too many folks have kill filed you already? > >So I guess we can expect another round of postings rehashing the same old >crap from months and years ago. Must be terrible not having a real life > >PV > From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:44 EDT 2007 Article: 543936 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us rec.travel.usa-canada:309788 can.general:356589 ab.general:110423 soc.culture.canada:543936 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-05!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada,can.general,ab.general,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: gel - another illiterate moron - NOT! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <1155006850.071894.303040@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155167546_3557@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <44DA79A4.4EE97C50@sympatico.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:31:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1155169880 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:31:20 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:31:20 MDT On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:11:16 -0400, Dave Smith wrote: >gel wrote: > >> asshole ,,if you do not give a crap...then do not write on these >> newsgroup. > >Some of us do care. We are sick of the nancyboy anti Edmonton rant. >It got stale a long time ago. Edmonton IS such a cesspool, which is why gel and others want to warn the general public, to AVOID getting shot, or even killed, by all the crooked cops there!! From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:44 EDT 2007 Article: 544034 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:332671 ab.general:110427 can.general:356641 can.taxes:97624 soc.culture.canada:544034 tor.general:328129 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Repost Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:29:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1155223778 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:29:38 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:29:38 MDT Is your mind so feeble, that you have no comments to make on the subject header? How do YOU feel about the crooked Edmonton cops? Don't hold back - are you in favor of their criminality? On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:31:16 GMT, "PV" wrote: >"WyattEarp" wrote in message >news:jkchd2t6lhn0fof9vrrghcefqt4equ0i3m@4ax.com... >> Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges >> against the crooked Edmonton cops? >What gives, not even the middle of the month and another name change? >Afraid that too many folks have kill filed you already? > >So I guess we can expect another round of postings rehashing the same old >crap from months and years ago. Must be terrible not having a real life > >PV From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:44 EDT 2007 Article: 544038 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us rec.travel.usa-canada:309809 can.general:356643 soc.culture.canada:544038 can.general:356644 tor.general:328130 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada,can.general,soc.culture.canada,can.general,tor.general Subject: Re: Edmonton Cops try to beat up Internet Whiner - get beaten Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <75505$44daa1ac$49a2583$19217@DIALUPUSA.NET> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:38:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155224293 64.59.135.176 (Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:38:13 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:38:13 MDT Both the Edmonton Chamber of Commerce, and Economic Development Edmonton are furious about all the anti-Edmonton articles posted on Internet, exposing all the criminal police!! Unfortunately, with all the local media exposing almost daily, yet another documented incident of police brutality, they can do nothing. Now that the latest victim has survived 6 bullets in the back, he and his family are siung the police for attempted murder, using the well-known anti-cop lawyer, Tom Engel. It seems that the new police chief, Mike Boyd from Toronto, is as useless here, as he was there! On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:03:25 -0400, "John Pezzano" wrote: >After years of hearing the same complaints on the internet about them, the >Edmonton Police Department sent some of their nicest officers over to the >house of that guy who always complains about them on the internet to beat >him up. Unfortunately, they were themselves beaten - to the scene - by the >Edmonton Chamber of Commerce - who wanted to add one more crime to the city >statistics by killing the guy thus doubling the number of murders in the >city this year. > >JohnP > From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:44 EDT 2007 Article: 544252 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1358440 calgary.general:352966 van.general:330463 can.general:356894 soc.culture.canada:544252 alt.homosexual:265122 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: can.politics,calgary.general,van.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,alt.homosexual Subject: Re: "Downtown" Steve Harper Refutes AIDS Summit - Demands Donations Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <4k5rfqFan5n1U1@individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:51:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1155394264 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:51:04 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:51:04 MDT Let the diseased fag AIDS-spreaders die in their own filth!! Not one penny of taxpayer money for the perverts! On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:14:23 -0400, "Terry Hansel-Pearson" wrote: >Help grow the work of God and Jesus Christ, > >Send $US (cash, small, untraceable bills) only to > >http://www.godhatesfags.com > >http://www.700club.com/ > >http://www.patrobertson.com/ > >http://www.bennyhinn.org > >http://www.jimbakkershow.com/ > >http://www.jsm.org/ > >http://www.conservative.ca/ > >If it means going without food or health care for a month, don't worry. God >will reward you in the Great Beyond. > >Don't forget, if you don't send cash or if you ask for a receipt, >Jesus Christ will kill you and your soul will rot in Hell forever. > >If you fear dying for Israel, God will smite thee! Enlist Now and fight to >protect the Christian Holy Land!! From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:44 EDT 2007 Article: 544253 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.general:356895 can.politics:1358443 can.community.military:121273 soc.culture.canada:544253 soc.culture.palestine:532360 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!nntp.csufresno.edu!tethys.csu.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,can.community.military,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Re: SEVEN MORE dead Canadian soldiers in one week.- Order Lots More Body Bags! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <1155351222.319147.178800@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:16:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1155395761 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:16:01 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:16:01 MDT On 11 Aug 2006 19:53:42 -0700, "Jonsa" wrote: >WyattEarp wrote: >> Almost 30 dead Canucks admitted so far, apart from hundreds admitted >> injured - all for USA & Israel!! >> >> How many will it take to bring all the rest of the surviving Canadians >> home? >> >> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:08 -0700, Brian Daily >> wrote: >> >> >It's time to bring the troops home.... >> >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/asia/11cnd-afghan.html?hp&ex=1155355200&en=2dfe995e2495db37&ei=5094&partner=homepage > >What a crock. >The Canadian soldiers are not there for either USA or Israel. They are >on behalf of CANADA. we beleive in freedom and liberty. we believe >that Islamo-facists are our enemies. we beleive that Afghanis should be >able to live in security and peace with justice, equality and liberty. >we believe that Afghanistan can at least rise to the 20th century. We >beleive that terrorists are scum and cannot be appeased. >We are not neutral in the war against Islamo-facists. And we certainly >take sides when the concepts of democracy and liberty are trashed by >hate spewing, religiously perverse scumbags. Canada has no legal status to be in Afghanistan. Canada is not at war against Afghanistan. Canada is only there in support of the USA & Israel, who started the war,so that is why stupid canucks die there!! Make sure there are enough body bags for the many more to die there - for the USA & Israel!! From WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:45 EDT 2007 Article: 544290 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.general:356933 can.politics:1358651 can.community.military:121298 soc.culture.canada:544290 soc.culture.palestine:532452 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: WyattEarp Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,can.community.military,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Re: SEVEN MORE dead Canadian soldiers in one week.- Order Lots More Body Bags! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: WyattEarp@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <1155351222.319147.178800@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:07:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1155434862 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:07:42 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:07:42 MDT On 11 Aug 2006 19:53:42 -0700, "Jonsa" wrote: >WyattEarp wrote: >> Almost 30 dead Canucks admitted so far, apart from hundreds admitted >> injured - all for USA & Israel!! >> >> How many will it take to bring all the rest of the surviving Canadians >> home? >> >> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:08 -0700, Brian Daily >> wrote: >> >> >It's time to bring the troops home.... >> >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/asia/11cnd-afghan.html?hp&ex=1155355200&en=2dfe995e2495db37&ei=5094&partner=homepage > >What a crock. >The Canadian soldiers are not there for either USA or Israel. They are >on behalf of CANADA. we beleive in freedom and liberty. we believe >that Islamo-facists are our enemies. we beleive that Afghanis should be >able to live in security and peace with justice, equality and liberty. >we believe that Afghanistan can at least rise to the 20th century. We >beleive that terrorists are scum and cannot be appeased. >We are not neutral in the war against Islamo-facists. And we certainly >take sides when the concepts of democracy and liberty are trashed by >hate spewing, religiously perverse scumbags. Canada has no legal status to be in Afghanistan. Canada is not at war against Afghanistan. Canada is only there in support of the USA & Israel, who started the war,so that is why stupid canucks die there!! Make sure there are enough body bags for the many more to die there - for the USA & Israel!! From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:45 EDT 2007 Article: 544291 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1358652 calgary.general:352990 van.general:330489 can.general:356934 soc.culture.canada:544291 alt.homosexual:265125 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!indigo.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!mauve.octanews.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: can.politics,calgary.general,van.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,alt.homosexual Subject: Re: "Downtown" Steve Harper Refutes AIDS Summit - Demands Donations Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <4c2td21nrld6ulcfnvdik659o7dim9qahq@4ax.com> References: <4k5rfqFan5n1U1@individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:08:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155434916 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:08:36 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:08:36 MDT Let the diseased fag AIDS-spreaders die in their own filth!! Not one penny of taxpayer money for the perverts! On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:14:23 -0400, "Terry Hansel-Pearson" wrote: >Help grow the work of God and Jesus Christ, > >Send $US (cash, small, untraceable bills) only to > >http://www.godhatesfags.com > >http://www.700club.com/ > >http://www.patrobertson.com/ > >http://www.bennyhinn.org > >http://www.jimbakkershow.com/ > >http://www.jsm.org/ > >http://www.conservative.ca/ > >If it means going without food or health care for a month, don't worry. God >will reward you in the Great Beyond. > >Don't forget, if you don't send cash or if you ask for a receipt, >Jesus Christ will kill you and your soul will rot in Hell forever. > >If you fear dying for Israel, God will smite thee! Enlist Now and fight to >protect the Christian Holy Land!! From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:45 EDT 2007 Article: 544292 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us rec.travel.usa-canada:309929 can.general:356935 soc.culture.canada:544292 can.general:356936 tor.general:328417 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada,can.general,soc.culture.canada,can.general,tor.general Subject: Re: Edmonton Cops try to beat up Internet Whiner - get beaten Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <75505$44daa1ac$49a2583$19217@DIALUPUSA.NET> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:09:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155434996 64.59.135.176 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:09:56 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:09:56 MDT Both the Edmonton Chamber of Commerce, and Economic Development Edmonton are furious about all the anti-Edmonton articles posted on Internet, exposing all the criminal police!! Unfortunately, with all the local media exposing almost daily, yet another documented incident of police brutality, they can do nothing. Now that the latest victim has survived 6 bullets in the back, he and his family are siung the police for attempted murder, using the well-known anti-cop lawyer, Tom Engel. It seems that the new police chief, Mike Boyd from Toronto, is as useless here, as he was there! On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:03:25 -0400, "John Pezzano" wrote: >After years of hearing the same complaints on the internet about them, the >Edmonton Police Department sent some of their nicest officers over to the >house of that guy who always complains about them on the internet to beat >him up. Unfortunately, they were themselves beaten - to the scene - by the >Edmonton Chamber of Commerce - who wanted to add one more crime to the city >statistics by killing the guy thus doubling the number of murders in the >city this year. > >JohnP > From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:45 EDT 2007 Article: 544399 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us ab.general:110442 edm.general:332980 calgary.general:353013 soc.culture.canada:544399 rec.travel.usa-canada:309950 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: ab.general,edm.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.canada,rec.travel.usa-canada Subject: Statistics Canada Admits-Edmonton Is Crime Center of Canada! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <96kud29r1gqi4u3j78uprms2cakc8995rl@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 16:18:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155485939 64.59.135.176 (Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:18:59 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:18:59 MDT In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July 2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital of Canada! The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000 people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!! And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, >from the notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes! And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity, mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold, let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop, judge or criminologist. From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:46 EDT 2007 Article: 544534 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us can.politics:1359274 alt.revisionism:1137097 can.general:357052 soc.culture.canada:544534 alt.homosexual:265127 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.revisionism,can.general,soc.culture.canada,alt.homosexual Subject: Re: I Demand An End To The Cease Fire - More War Now!! - Disgusting Poster! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: References: <20060814114840.3A1211720F@mail.cypherpunks.to> <1155562231.351956.307510@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:58:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1155563937 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:58:57 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:58:57 MDT The OP seems to be JamesD, a disgusting pervert, presently under police investigation. Just ask Det. Palamattan of EPS. It seems that his picture, or one identical, was featured just over a week ago, in connection with an assault on a young woman in north Edmonton. With ISPs cancelling him all around the world, he is now forced to use anonymous remailers. On 14 Aug 2006 06:30:31 -0700, "aaronhirshberg@yahoo.com" wrote: >Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: >> I'm an AIDS infested Queer who preys on Edmonton's children >> >> Somebody come to my home and give me a good beating before I rape >> another little boy!! End my torment NOW!!! >> >> William Grosvenor - 780 475-9668 9208 - 137 Avenue, Northtown Mall >> area, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > >I am pretty sure that this William Grosvenor fellow is going to be >calling the Police to have you arrested, and then file an enormous law >suit against you. Too bad for you. > >If you are going to try to make this believeable, don't use a name like >"William Grosvenor". Pick one of the following names: > >George Walker Bush >Michael Savage >Jim Guckert >Rush Limbaugh >Karl Rove From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:46 EDT 2007 Article: 544569 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us edm.general:333059 ab.general:110447 can.general:357065 can.taxes:97653 soc.culture.canada:544569 tor.general:328544 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,can.general,can.taxes,soc.culture.canada,tor.general Subject: Re: Canada Revenue Agency[CRA] Going After Crooked EDMONTON Cops Repost Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <4in1e25ok1dbalf1kcb08vobi763vbff4d@4ax.com> References: <11qdu601jn0sn2c@corp.supernews.com> <6qseq19596fd1laorkm2a2c216nje8igr8@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 148 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:34:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1155587683 64.59.135.176 (Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:34:43 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:34:43 MDT Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the crooked Edmonton cops? On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew wrote: >On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth >McVay OBC) wrote: > >>In article , >>Sew wrote: >>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header >>>(CopsToJail) wrote: >>> >>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get >>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department. >>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!! >>> >>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money >>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the >>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in >>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. >> >>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please? > >ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just >one more.... > > > >TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN >FAMILY > > > >One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court >battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions >in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. > >Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against >George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is >contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family >assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. > >"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax >system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University >Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. > >"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of >our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action >by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the >collection of essential public revenues." > >The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent >rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd., >the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. > >Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial >tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to >move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two >family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax. >The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in >taxes. > >Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court >Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the >public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to >escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." > >Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing >Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr. >Harris has no direct interest in the case. > >"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to >challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of >another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To >allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax >administration." > >Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being >addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being >considered. > >After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the >government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to >ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have >increased in value during their time in Canada. > >But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. > >The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in >Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant >communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming >into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on >profits accrued during their time in the country. > >The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create >an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private >companies. > >In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials >for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no >right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. > >"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers, >except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to >complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. > >"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the >grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to >the country and to national programs such sums could have >contributed." > >Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues >he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other >government expenditures. > >"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise >the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial >expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of >tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by >government." > >With files from Southam news Inc. > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Full Graphics Version (Home) > > > Support Flipside/Donations >Text Version (Home) > Content Questions/Feedback? > Site Questions/Feedback? > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 19:54:47 EDT 2007 Article: 545016 of soc.culture.canada Xref: sn-us bc.politics:399384 can.politics:1360215 can.general:357257 soc.culture.canada:545016 ab.general:110464 alt.politics.nationalism.white:524363 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 68.151.193.236 From: DrFaustus Newsgroups: bc.politics,can.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ab.general,alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Re: Former Vancouver police officer faces child pornography charges-ZYD Kiddie Porn Criminal Gets Off! Organization: Proposition13 Reply-To: DrFaustus@roc.usenetexchange.com Message-ID: <5i26e2pq7odndh6v5l9kk2trru5bhaupvi@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 405 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:06:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.135.176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1155730019 64.59.135.176 (Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:06:59 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:06:59 MDT On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:27:17 GMT, dangdangdoodle3 wrote: >In article , > "NDP Rogue" Socilaists.6768447746865.gov> wrote: >> Former Vancouver police officer faces child pornography charges >> VANCOUVER (CP) - A former police officer who once ran the department's >> school-liaison program faces child pornography charges. John Dragani has >> been charged with one count of possession of child pornography and one count >> of accessing child pornography. Dragani, who was a sergeant, was suspended >> without pay last year until he retired. Vancouver Constable Tim Fanning says >> Crown counsel approved the charges after an aggressive police investigation. >> Fanning says the allegations were embarrassing, but it's also an opportunity >> to show when criminal conduct is alleged against an officer they take it >> seriously. Dragani was arrested Monday at his Vancouver home and will face >> the charges in Surrey provincial court. >It would take 5 or 6 minutes to charge anyone else, but for this cop, it >took over a year and apparently he was allowed to retire. Plus he >appears to be minimally charged, where as someone else would have the >book thrown at them. >Any cop caught breaking the law on duty should have automatically >doubled sentencing because they've also broken the public's trust which >they have agreed to keep. I'm sure people like Harper, who believe in >longer sentences to protect the public would agree with me, if he's not >a being a bloody hypocrite again. Typical of the crooked police forces in Canada! Since they could not completely cover it up, they allowed the crooked cop to resign, so he could collect his pension and other benefits!! Subject: Re: ZYD Friedman-KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTOR , from Synagogue!! He Did No Jail Time!! Edmonton Man,Not Jew, Gets 3 1/2 Years! On 18 Mar 2006 20:14:27 -0000, Ariadne wrote: And Robert Welldumb could find nothing wrong with the detailed report, so he complains about the TRUTH: Welldumb could not explain why the crooked ZYD got no jail, while the white man in Edmonton got 3 1/2 years in jail - FOR AN EVEN LESSER OFFENCE!! One must wonder, is Welldumb another kiddie porn distributor? >Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman >JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!! >Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of >the synagogue in Halifax, Canada? >He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from >his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back to Boston, where the >FBI picked him up!! >But for a white man convicted of similar charges, the white guy in Edmonton gets 3 1/2 years in jail!! One must question the preferential treatment given to the KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTOR OPERATING FROM THE SYNAGOGUE!! Why was he allowed to avoid jail, when a white man gets 3 1/2 years, deservedly? What did the crooked judge in that case receive for his generosity? Looks like the Canadian public got JEWED, again!! ________________________________________ >On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere" wrote: > >>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert >>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by >>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite. >>Iamhere >>====================================================================================== >>Ted Dichtler wrote: >>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne >>> wrote: > >>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former >>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada? > >>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE >>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back >>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!! > >>> Story as reported by newspaper follows: >>> kenmcvay Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am >>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian, >>> soc.culture.palestine >>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies >>> Date: 1999/02/14 >>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote: >>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker >>> >wrote: > >>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K. >>> >>J.B. >>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert. > >>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with >>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without >>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison? > >>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN >>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue?? > >>> >>> > wrote: > >>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S. >>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters > >>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded >>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was >>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday. > >>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a >>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left >>> the country for his native United States. > >>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials >>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy >>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be >>> connected to an international child pornography ring. > >>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to >>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and >>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the >>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs >>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his >>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on >>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts. > >>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax >>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto >>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this >>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet. >>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained >>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said. >>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of >>> pornography that's out there.'' > >>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last >>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs' >>> regional intelligence officer. > >>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials - >>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome'' >>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case. > >>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest, >>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things >>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the >>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were >>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very >>> difficult time.'' > >>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old >>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last >>> October, Mrs. Fox said. > >>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the >>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are >>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert >>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors. > >>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night >>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed. > >>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over >>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into >>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the >>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands. > >>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank >>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the >>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and >>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and >>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later. > >>> Article Segment 2 of 2 >>> (Ge >>> (Get All > >>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada >>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and >>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. > >>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and >>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search >>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. > >>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated >>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His >>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. > >>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will >>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins= >>> said. > >>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet >>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at >>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law >>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.'' > >>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution >>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies >>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined >>> comment. > >>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at >>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine >>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also >>> confiscated. > >>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston >>> to be with his family. > >>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a >>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they >>> did say there was a plea bargain. > >>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived >>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last >>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead >>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no >>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. > >>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, >>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through >>> the media. >>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking >>> about how we will handle this.'' > >>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as >>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors. > >>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or >>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related >>> material. > >>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey >>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. > >>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: >>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org > > >>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan" wrote: > >>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm > >>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences > >>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media >>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were >>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation. > >>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9, >>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon. > >>> >They were found to have molested hundreds of children, and taken extensive >>> >video and photographic files on their molestations. > >>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN >>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS! If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant Posted by: Patrick Lee Humphrey 7500 Bellerive #1807 Houston, Texas 77036-3040 1-713-266-7764 Steven Horn (KCOM) 1836 NW 11th St Oklahoma City, OK 73106 (405) 524-0576 together with Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive & Henry CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984 Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even VISIT me at: 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132 We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront, Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc. We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA. We like young children, so that we can train them our way. Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material should give an indication as to the why. "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles also have family albums with naked children photos in them.] Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child even if he or she were not naked"? http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters. Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar. Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights. Also,be sure to include me on maillists: Keith Spencer,