
From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:08 EST 2007 Article: 64913 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:374495 soc.culture.swiss:64913 soc.culture.europe:582318 From: Matthias KernNewsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.europe Subject: Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 08:12:01 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 78 Message-ID: <2scu33pnap0h91fivvgplgiqqk0j8dbc48@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feed.ac-versailles.fr!news.ecp.fr!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:11:14 -0600 Message-ID: <7c7sc2dtimb3mtpnu2drc2so5vouf2q6tf@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.0/32.1071 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:12:50 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc Norman wrote: "Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen" FDP-Außenexperte Wolfgang Gerhardt spricht sich für Einsatz einer internationalen Friedenstruppe ohne Deutsche aus Vom 31.07.2006 BERLIN Wolfgang Gerhardt, FDP-Außenexperte und Vorsitzender der Friedrich-Naumann-Stiftung hält einen sofortigen Waffenstillstand für dringend geboten. Es sei nicht länger zu leugnen, dass der Krieg im Libanon zu viele zivile Opfer fordere. Herr Gerhardt, beim jüngsten israelischen Angriff auf das libanesische Dorf Kana wurden auch 27 Kinder getötet. Der Nahost-Krieg eskaliert weiter. Wo bleibt der internationale Druck in Richtung Waffenstillstand? Gerhardt: Jeder weitere Kriegstag ist schrecklich. Je früher ein Waffenstillstand zustande kommt, desto besser. Ohne eine umfassende internationale Beteiligung werden die beiden Konfliktparteien zu keiner friedlichen Lösung kommen. Dieser Krieg ist für Israel militärisch nicht zu gewinnen. Es kann nur eine politische Lösung geben. Israels Bombardement trifft nicht nur die Hisbollah-Stellungen, sondern auch die Zivilbevölkerung. Gerhardt: Israel macht es seinen Freunden manchmal wirklich sehr schwer. Es lässt sich nicht länger leugnen, dass die zivilen Opfer leider sehr sehr hoch sind. Jeder Tote ist ein Toter zu viel, egal auf welcher Seite. Wir brauchen schnell eine internationale Lösung und den Einsatz einer internationalen Friedenstruppe. Einen anderen Weg zum Frieden sehe ich nicht. Wie sollte das Mandat für die Truppe ausgestaltet werden? Gerhardt: Es geht nur mit einem klaren und robusten Mandat der Vereinten Nationen, dem die beiden Konfliktparteien zustimmen müssen. Eine Friedenstruppe muss im Notfall auch militärische Mittel anwenden können. Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel lehnt eine deutsche Beteiligung an einer Nahost-Friedenstruppe ab. Sollte sich Deutschland aus historischen Gründen zurückhalten? Gerhardt: Wir sollten hier äußerst zurückhaltend sein. Da sind vor allem die historischen Gründe. Es darf kein deutscher Soldat in die Situation gebracht werden, dass er mit israelischen Soldaten oder Hisbollah-Milizen in einen Konflikt kommt. Ich mag mir nicht vorstellen, was in einem deutschen Soldaten in einer solchen Situation vorgeht. Israel hätte sicher Verständnis dafür, wenn sich Deutschland nicht an einer Friedenstruppe beteiligt. Alle Beteiligten müssen verstehen und akzeptieren, dass deutsche Soldaten nicht entsandt werden sollten. Aber es gibt viele Alternativen zur Hilfe. Welchen Beitrag könnte Berlin leisten? Gerhardt: Der Konflikt ist sehr vielschichtig. Das Leben der Palästinenser in den Autonomie-Gebieten muss deutlich verbessert werden. Die Menschen benötigen eine Perspektive. Hier gilt es, die wirtschaftliche Lage zu verbessern. Auch im Libanon sollten wir beim Wiederaufbau helfen. Bisher sind alle Nahost-Friedenspläne gescheitert. Wie sollte ein neuer Anlauf aussehen? Gerhardt: Die USA haben offenbar vor dem Hintergrund des Irak-Krieges zu wenig Aufmerksamkeit auf Israel und den Konflikt mit den Palästinensern gelegt. Israel kann dauerhaft nur mit einer Zwei-Staaten-Lösung seine Zukunft und den Frieden in der Region sichern. Das Gespräch führte Andreas Herholz. http://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/politik/objekt.php3?artikel_id=2471045 From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:09 EST 2007 Article: 64932 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:582530 soc.culture.swiss:64932 soc.culture.palestine:564587 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Din Moser: the Jewish Law of the Informer Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:37:06 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3ve643th1b6sa33n8qnm2i2d5pfuae1fsq@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Din Moser: the Jewish Law of the Informer On 7 May 2007 14:39:18 -0700, in uk.politics.misc Antigone wrote: "din moser" [This] law commands every Jew to kill or wound severely any Jew who, without a decision of a competent rabbinical authority, has informed non-Jews, especially non-Jewish authorities, about Jewish affairs or who has given them information about Jewish property or who has delivered Jewish persons or property to their rule or authority. (p. 137) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The systematic killing of informers, enjoined by eminent rabbis as a religious duty, has no parallel in other societies. (p. 161) ---------------------------------------------------------------- [Comment: Actually it DOES! An objective, detached, study of the tenets of Judaism allows only one logical conclusion. Judaism is NOT a religion, it is a criminal conspiracy! The Jewish "religious" law of the informer certainly has its parallels in other crime syndicates such as the Mafia {La Cosa Nostra} ! -hengist] ---------------------------------------------------------------- Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, Pluto Press, London and Sterling Virginia, 1999. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:09 EST 2007 Article: 64934 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:582534 soc.culture.swiss:64934 soc.culture.german:374616 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.german Subject: Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling' Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:47:33 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 177 Message-ID: <0if643tpqs4eu4gfq840r7oh4kc198nali@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling' Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:01:31 -0600 Message-ID: <5e7dh2pu0b03ft89rsijmnkledg8fcgp80@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.0/32.1071 On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:17:39 +1000, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Antimulticulture" wrote: Internet Hate-Speech Ban Called 'Chilling' Council of Europe's Internet restrictions raise uneasy questions about civil rights online. Michelle Madigan 24th September, 2006 As European leaders move to ban Internet hate speech and seek support from the United States, civil liberties groups charge that the proposal would violate free-speech rights. The Council of Europe--not to be confused with the European Union--comprises 44 European countries, plus a handful of non-European nations. Canada, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, and the United States have observer status only, but their comments are sought. The council recently voted to outlaw "acts of a racist and xenophobic nature conducted through computer systems." The measure was added to the Convention on Cybercrime, criminalizing hacking, intellectual property violations, and use of computers to commit fraud. The first set of rules was signed in November 2001. The non-European members are being asked to endorse the hate-speech provision at a meeting in late January. Broad Ban 'Terrifying' The Justice Department has indicated it will not support the broader restrictions because of concern that it is incompatible with First Amendment rights to free speech. The agreement defines racist and xenophobic material as "written material, images or other representations of ideas or theories advocating, promoting or inciting hatred, discrimination or violence against individuals or groups, based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin, or religion." [ed. 'Cept those "evil" Whites and Christians who get slagged off on a daily basis by the "tolerant" left and the "religion of peace"...] "It's a terrifying prospect," says James Gattuso, a research fellow for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. "It's inherently dangerous for governments to define what appropriate speech is. You can't define or limit speech without chilling speech." The protocol is subject to interpretation, he notes. "If you have a cartoon criticizing French foreign policy, would the French government have recourse?" he asks. "I don't see anything that would exclude that." The Electronic Privacy Information Center suspects that the protocol is aimed at right-wing racist speech, says Sarah Andrews, EPIC's research director. She thinks it targets white supremacist or antiabortion groups. A separate proposal on revisionism would prohibit speech about Holocaust denials, she notes. But either ban is drastically contrary to the U.S. practice of protecting even hate speech. For example, an antiabortion group ran a Web site called the Nuremberg Files, which listed doctors who performed abortions. As antiabortion activists killed these doctors, they were crossed out on the Web site. Critics said the Web site incited violence, and a lower court agreed; but upon appeal the Web site was declared to be protected by the First Amendment. Under the Council of Europe protocol, the Web site would be illegal, Andrews says. "At the very extreme, historians or journalists writing about these people or [about] Holocaust denials would be prohibited," says Andrews. 'Cultural Clash' The Council of Europe's original Convention on Cybercrime in 2001 also contained a hate-speech measure, but it was dropped at the last minute to gain support from the United States, which signed the treaty along with 29 other countries. However, for the treaty to become reality, the members must enact laws in their own countries. [ed. What about asking the people?] Nations have been slow to ratify the treaty, says Barry Steinhardt, director of technology and liberty programs for the American Civil Liberties Union and cofounder of the Global Internet Liberty Campaign. Only two Council of Europe members--Albania and Croatia--have executed the treaty's provisions >from one year ago. Ratification in the U.S. requires action by the Senate, which has not happened. While few countries have taken action, civil liberties groups say the protocol has a chilling effect and are tracking the Council of Europe's actions. "The U.S. has always maintained that they won't sign on to this protocol, and it would be very shocking if they did so in the end," EPIC's Andrews says. If European countries find unacceptable material on an American-based Web site, they cannot expect American courts to block access to the material because it would be protected here by the First Amendment, says Paula Bruening, staff counsel for the Center for Democracy & Technology. "As disturbing as this kind of speech is, it is protected by the First Amendment," Bruening says. "Our vision of the Internet is a free exchange of ideas, but Europe takes a different approach. What we're seeing here is a cultural clash." [ed. Centrally planned tyranny, ban, ban, ban....] Who's Responsible? The treaty says Internet service providers would not be held responsible for simply hosting a Web site or chat room containing hate speech. However, if the Council of Europe member countries adopt laws that make it a crime to distribute such material to the public through e-mail or Web sites, this may negatively impact privacy and Internet use by Americans, say some civil liberties groups. The proposals would require governments to take invasive measures to prosecute individuals, says the ACLU's Steinhardt. He says the United States would have to cooperate in such a case. American Internet service providers could potentially be forced to shut down their interactive components because people may engage in speech that is offensive in Europe, says Steinhardt. Some members of the European parliament called for an "unlawful hosting" provision that would have increased the liability of U.S. companies, says Sarah Deutsch, vice president and associate general counsel for Verizon Communications. The Council of Europe rejected that proposal as problematic, but ISPs are still concerned because Internet jurisdiction is largely unsettled, Deutsch says. Recurring Concerns When French organizations brought Yahoo to court for allowing Nazi-oriented auction items on its Web site, a French court said Yahoo was liable, but did not enforce the judgment. A U.S. court said later that the ruling could not be imposed in the United States. Some U.S.-based Web sites have chosen to voluntarily block access to some information in respect of other countries' laws, which also raises concerns among civil liberties organizations. But a Yahoo executive could be arrested when traveling in France because that judgment still stands, says Deutsch. "Some countries hold you liable because citizens can access your Web site," says Deutsch. "Countries need to adopt a common set of principles." [ed. I support the free exchange of ideas, on the internet and otherwise, and reject utterly the idea of arbitrary "hate crimes" 'decreed' by any elected or unelected body, without the full consent of the governed - anything less is tyranny...] -- Antimulticulture "Bring Back Democracy!] Newsboard: http://www.gossiping.net/phpBB2/?mforum=newsboard http://www.geocities.com/anti_multiculture/index.html Unite Against Multicult'ism! "Abolish Multi-Culty and String Up the Traitors!" http://www.alphalink.com.au/~eureka/mccorm.htm Asianisation of Australia: The Grand Plan From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:09 EST 2007 Article: 64954 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.europe:582759 soc.culture.swiss:64954 soc.culture.palestine:564828 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news-out.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.palestine Subject: Global Organized Crime Dominated by ZYDS/Jews Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:49:43 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 47 Message-ID: <2q5e43hlelj2i5388htfm7g7o859id7ulc@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Global Organized Crime Dominated by Jews Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:53:00 -0600 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.0/32.1071 On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II" wrote: Russia Takes Underworld to New Level 2006-09-06 Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most- wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava." Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book, Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level. Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ. In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the competition. Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from extradition to the United States when the feds get after them. As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates. "With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to do something. They could lose their whole country." Full article http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/Perspective/Russia_takes_underwor.shtml From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:09 EST 2007 Article: 64995 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:374805 soc.culture.swiss:64995 de.soc.politik.misc:872558 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!207.217.77.43.MISMATCH!elnk-pas-nf1!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.osn.de!diablo1.news.osn.de!news2.arglkargh.de!news.ecp.fr!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.swiss,de.soc.politik.misc Subject: Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren... Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:41:26 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 69 Message-ID: <45au43psvoennlidt8fiqrs9t30pqua8e0@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren... Immer die verfluechten Juden! On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow wrote: 21. Oktober 2006 Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv zu werden. In der "Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung" sagte Stein, es handele sich "nicht mehr um Randerscheinungen", wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien. ] N24 Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich extremer und sitzt nicht etwa "nur" in einem Landtag sondern in der Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation "LINKE", sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den "RICHTIGEN"(tm) gehört? -- In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim... Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden, sonst lügen die sich durch. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:10 EST 2007 Article: 65020 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:374938 soc.culture.swiss:65020 de.soc.politik.misc:875581 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.ecp.fr!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.swiss,de.soc.politik.misc Subject: Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren... Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 09:57:23 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 69 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren... Immer die verfluechten Juden! On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow wrote: 21. Oktober 2006 Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv zu werden. In der "Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung" sagte Stein, es handele sich "nicht mehr um Randerscheinungen", wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien. ] N24 Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich extremer und sitzt nicht etwa "nur" in einem Landtag sondern in der Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation "LINKE", sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den "RICHTIGEN"(tm) gehört? -- In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim... Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden, sonst lügen die sich durch. For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:10 EST 2007 Article: 65248 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.swiss:65248 soc.culture.polish:792886 soc.culture.russian:463107 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!news2.euro.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.russian Subject: Zionism And The Third Reich-Part 1/2 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:45:07 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 410 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Zionism And The Third Reich On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater wrote: http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM Zionism And The Third Reich By Mark Weber Institute for Historical Review 2-8-3 Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich. Common Aims Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other "foreign" country. Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."3 Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4 Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition. Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ... Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective responsibility ... We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be dealt with by most European peoples ... Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ... For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ... We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples. The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"), proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6 Active Collaboration On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine >from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive collaboration. Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7 The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper recommended.8 SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9 The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11 The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world. A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them." 13 In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often received their help when we required anything from other authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14 At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau editorially welcomed the new measures: 15 Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all aspects of national life ... Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16 For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation, provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish point of view, entirely welcome. Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress, told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18 If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists, because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood. In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19 Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22 Official Reservations German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their" governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23 A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25 A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East." Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January 1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry." 28 Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29 Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30 Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate in Hitler's Germany. 31 The Transfer Agreement The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32 Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group. Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment. Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from the Haavara. 35 A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36 Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37 The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange") transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39 From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:12 EST 2007 Article: 65274 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:375814 de.soc.politik.misc:889922 soc.culture.swiss:65274 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Holocaust=HOLOHOAX: neue Klagen gegen BRD Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:21:31 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 79 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Holocaust: neue Klagen gegen BRD On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:09:09 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Malte Messmann wrote: Frank Bügel schrieb: > Kinder von Holocaust-Überlebenden wollen auf Zahlungen klagen > Anwalt: Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden > Tel Aviv (APA/dpa) - Kinder israelischer Holocaust-Überlebender wollen vor > einem israelischen Gericht auf Zahlungen aus Deutschland klagen. Ein > entsprechender Antrag solle am Sonntag vor dem Bezirksgericht in Tel Aviv > eingereicht werden, berichtete die israelische Tageszeitung "Haaretz" am > Freitag. Die Leiden der "zweiten Generation" müssten anerkannt werden, wird > ein Rechtsanwalt zitiert. Bisher hätten sich 3.000 Israelis der Initiative > angeschlossen. > Die Kläger wollen dem Zeitungsbericht zufolge erreichen, dass die deutsche > Regierung die Kosten für Therapien übernimmt, die das Leid der zweiten > Generation lindern. In der Klageschrift würden die Fälle von fünf Frauen > genannt, deren Eltern den Holocaust überlebt haben. Die Töchter litten > heute unter Angstzuständen und Depressionen. > In der Klageschrift werde der Fall einer 55-jährigen Klägerin genannt, die > nicht mit Bussen fahren könne, weil sie dies an Züge erinnere, in denen > Juden in Vernichtungslager gefahren wurden. Eine andere Frau habe starke > Angst vor Hunden. > "Sowohl die Erfahrungen der zweiten Generation und Studien zeigen, dass das > Trauma zwischen den Generationen übertragen wurde (...), zitiert die > Zeitung aus der Klageschrift. Die geplante Klage wird als bisher > beispiellos bezeichnet. (IKG Wien, 13.07.2007) > http://www.ikg-wien.at/IKG/Members/irene/1104751983285/1184329903905?portal_skin=News&id=1184329903905 > Ist eigentlich ein Urteil eines israelischen Gerichts für die BRD bindend? > Was haltet Ihr von dieser "beispiellosen" Klage? > Frank Die Juden haben über 60 Jahre nach Kriegsende einen an der Waffel, scheint auch ein Folgeschaden zu sein. Wenn sie Geld brauchen sollen sie arbeiten, wenn sie zum schachern, was sie am besten können, zu blöd sind. 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From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:12 EST 2007 Article: 65278 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.ukrainian:132968 soc.culture.australian:412532 soc.culture.swiss:65278 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.swiss Subject: ZYDS Attack Polish Priest Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:01:44 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 148 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 From: "Salah Jafar" Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.lebanon Subject: Jews attacked Polish priest Stir over priest's 'anti-Semitic remarks' The BBC's Adam Easton reports on the growing row over alleged anti-Semitic remarks made by the controversial head of a religious radio station in Poland. Father Tadeusz Rydzyk, 62, allegedly called the Polish president, Lech Kaczynski, a "swindler" who had bowed to pressure from the Jewish lobby to compensate people for property lost during and after World War II. The comments came to light last week after the weekly magazine, Wprost, published excerpts and subsequently a tape, from a private lecture it said the priest gave to students at his media centre in Torun, northern Poland. In it, Fr Rydzyk, reportedly criticises Mr Kaczynski for his subservience to the Jewish lobby. "You know that it's about giving $65bn," to the Jews, he allegedly said. "They will come to you and say 'give me your coat. Take off your pants. Give me your shoes'," the magazine reported. The Simon Wiesenthal Center - an international Jewish human rights organisation - strongly rebuked the comments. "This is outrageous, a [Nazi propaganda minister] Josef Goebbels in a collar," said Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Center. Israel's ambassador to Poland, David Peleg, said Fr Rydzyk's comments were damaging Polish-Israeli relations. "The tapes that have come to light are evidence that Rydzyk and his institutions are anti-Semitic and something must be done in the name of good Polish-Israeli relations," he said in an interview with Poland's Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper. Influential Fr Rydzyk, a priest from the Redemptorist order, has regularly courted controversy since he launched Radio Maryja in 1991. With a blend of chat, music and religious services, the station styles itself as the "Catholic Voice in Your Home" and attracts many listeners in rural and poorer areas. But critics say it promotes xenophobic, ultra-Catholic, and at times, anti-Semitic views. Fr Rydzyk has since gone on to create something of a media empire, including the Trwam television station, the newspaper Nasz Dziennik, and a journalism college in his headquarters in Torun. Figures suggest Radio Maryja is steadily losing listeners with the station now attracting just over a million people or around two per cent of the daily audience. But Fr Rydzyk's political influence has never been higher. In 2005, he urged his listeners to vote for the Law and Justice party, headed by Mr Kaczynski's twin brother, Jaroslaw. The party won the elections and subsequently its members have become regular guests on both the radio and TV stations. Last weekend, for the first time ever, a prime minister appeared at Radio Maryja's annual pilgrimage. Addressing the crowd of around 150,000 people, Jaroslaw Kaczynski told them: "Here is Poland." A day later, the magazine, Wprost, published its story. Apart from the alleged anti-Semitic remarks, it also claimed Fr Rydzyk called President Kaczynski's wife a "witch" for her supposed support of limited abortion rights. "You witch! I'll let you have it. If you want to kill people, do it to yourself first," he reportedly said. Leaders reticent Fr Rydzyk has suggested the tapes were doctored and called the story "fictitious". The magazine says the authenticity of the tapes is beyond doubt. Poland's Senate Speaker, Bogdan Borusewicz, has also been quoted as saying he believes the tapes to be genuine. Despite the alleged slur, both Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski have refused to condemn the priest. If the tape is verified as being Fr Rydzyk, then he should apologise, they said. Many commentators here believe the twins may be reluctant to move against him. The priest has the ability to carry perhaps more than a million votes to their side come new elections. However, Mr Peleg is hopeful action will be taken. "I also expected the Polish government and president would have reacted at once in a decisive way to Rydzyk's anti-Semitism. And although a few days have passed, I think this reaction will be forthcoming," he told Gazeta Wyborcza. 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From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:12 EST 2007 Article: 65292 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.swiss:65292 soc.culture.europe:587741 soc.culture.german:375952 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-14!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german Subject: Der Ewige Jude Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:11:11 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Subject: Der Ewige Jude On 3 Aug 2006 14:22:20 -0700, in can.politics "Listen to Goyfire Radio" wrote: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8441356137394932381&q=eternal+jews From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:12 EST 2007 Article: 65379 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:376273 de.soc.politik.misc:896563 soc.culture.swiss:65379 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!novso.com!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Germans Fed Up with Hearing About HOLOHOAX!! - Repost Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:27:20 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 334 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 In Germany people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX. Immer die verfluechte Juden! On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy" wrote: >"Harry Mazal" wrote in message >news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white >Tommy >> wrote: >> Friday, January 07, 2005 >> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three >> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe >> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different >> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews. >Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had? >Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never >have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the >zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews. >Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the >frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat >comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS, >with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police, >could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not >even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no >illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's >committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before >he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews >will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met. >http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM >Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and >Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists >only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on >taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these >plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the >Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not >come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began >the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to >support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say >anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose >was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were >not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight >the Nazis. >> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to >> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's >> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that >> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek >> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its >> Jewish character. >Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We >have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting >men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to >protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job >in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there >families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation >and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do. >They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll >so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep >hiding from their horrendous mistake/s. >http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html >I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons >with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. >Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). >Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions >of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names >to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. >During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags. >Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust >Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims of Nazi >extermination. But as you can see HERE >(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly >every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times! >Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly >everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including >you can submit a "Page of Testimony". >Name Town District Region >Country Bday Source >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1879 list of victims from Germany >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1879 list of deportation from Berlin >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1905 list of deportation from Berlin >It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with >louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious >"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for >extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps >show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. >The photos and records show there was not enough coke or >crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors >lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not >contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If >the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired >train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the >locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus >epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of >heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very >dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination. >http://www.vho.org/ >The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate >The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing, >impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, >who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always >looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have >extorted billions from the US Treasury, >Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax >fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something >good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone. >A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate. >> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the >> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal >> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of >> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if >> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend. >> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of >> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's >> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade >> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli >> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the >> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area." >> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of >> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances >> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a >> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the >> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the >> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are >> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust >> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students. >> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently >> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism >> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's >> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community >> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less >> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second >> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of >> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether >> this is the result of government policy." >> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust >> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly, >> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing >> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil. >> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution >> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the >> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked >> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under >> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors, >> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other >> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are >> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by >> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed >> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the >> mass murders of those victims' offspring. >> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism >> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be >> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with >> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that >> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not >> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In >> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank >> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have >> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine." >> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an >> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A >> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia, >> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew >> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest >> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote, >> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should >> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social >> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research." >> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust >> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure. >> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark >> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people. >> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr. >> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center. If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." 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From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:13 EST 2007 Article: 65427 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:376512 de.soc.politik.misc:903027 soc.culture.swiss:65427 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Germans Fed Up with Hearing About HOLOHOAX!! - Repost Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:59:08 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 334 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 In Germany people are fed up with the HOLOHOAX. Immer die verfluechte Juden! On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:14:17 GMT, "princeandy" wrote: >"Harry Mazal" wrote in message >news:pmag325c0voafsvq7dtt25ii399gg8s7dj@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:01:42 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white >Tommy >> wrote: >> Friday, January 07, 2005 >> According to a new poll, 62% of Germans are tired of hearing about the three >> hundred thousand Jews killed during the Second World War, while 52% believe >> that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is not fundamentally different >> from the Nazis' treatment of Jews. >Well for a start why dont you mention the greatest helpers the nazis had? >Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never >have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the >zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews. >Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the >frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat >comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS, >with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police, >could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not >even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no >illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's >committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before >he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews >will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met. >http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM >Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and >Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists >only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on >taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these >plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the >Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not >come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began >the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to >support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say >anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose >was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were >not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight >the Nazis. >> Around the world, museums, monuments and educational curricula testify to >> the truth of the Nazi genocide. For survivors, contemporary society's >> embrace of their painful legacy has provided a measure of solace. But that >> solace is eroding in the face of twin threats: organized movements that seek >> to prove the Holocaust did not exist or, failing that, to strip away its >> Jewish character. >Well the jewish character seemsas always to to find monetary gain enough. We >have them reviling and complaining about all things anti semitic , putting >men in jail if they mention the holocaust. And it all appears to be to >protect their beloved leaders the zionists who having done such a good job >in convincing European jews to wlk unresisting into nazi camps putting there >families at the mercy of paedophiles and rapists, medical experimentation >and anything else the nazis felt they wanted to do. >They are now protecting their zionist leaders by pumping up the death toll >so the poor embarrassed cleverest portions of our populations can keep >hiding from their horrendous mistake/s. >http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html >I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons >with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. >Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). >Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall of East Europe to communism, many of the millions >of Jews who fled Poland into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names >to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the concentration camps of louse-born typhus. >During World War One, two million civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags. >Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust >Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims of Nazi >extermination. But as you can see HERE >(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly >every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times! >Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly >everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including >you can submit a "Page of Testimony". >Name Town District Region >Country Bday Source >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1879 list of victims from Germany >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1879 list of deportation from Berlin >Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany >1905 list of deportation from Berlin >It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with >louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious >"witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for >extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps >show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. >The photos and records show there was not enough coke or >crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors >lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not >contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If >the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired >train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from the >locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus >epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of >heads and requisitions for tons of Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very >dangerous, impractical, messy method for extermination. >http://www.vho.org/ >The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate >The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing, >impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, >who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always >looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have >extorted billions from the US Treasury, >Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax >fraud. The Holohoax also makes those who fought Hitler feel like they did something >good fighting the demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take on Stalin alone. >A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate. >> Of course, the revisionist "historians" and hatemongers who deny the >> existence of the Holocaust, influential as they are in some marginal >> circles, operate outside respectable discourse. But the same is not true of >> those who seek to drain the Holocaust of its Jewish component. Imagine, if >> you will, a Holocaust commemoration that Jews were not allowed to attend. >> Oslo witnessed such an event on Nov. 9, the 66th anniversary of >> Kristallnacht, the Third Reich's state-orchestrated pogrom against Germany's >> Jews. Norwegian authorities, not wanting any trouble from Muslims, forbade >> the display of Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli >> flag. The evening news showed a group of Jews who wanted to take part in the >> commemoration being told by a policeman to "please leave the area." >> The Oslo outrage echoed what occurred in 2000 when the Dutch Committee of >> the Jewish Resistance cancelled a public event out of fear of disturbances >> caused by Arab youths. While Amsterdam municipal authorities supported a >> memorial meeting commemorating Kristallnacht, they insisted -- over the >> objections of Jewish survivors -- that an Arab speaker could use the >> occasion to attack Israel. In Belgium and France, meanwhile, teachers are >> increasingly unwilling or unable to teach mandated sessions on the Holocaust >> because of ugly disturbances by Arab students. >> In Raoul Wallenberg's homeland, Sweden, a third of young people recently >> polled were skeptical that the Holocaust really happened. Similar skepticism >> was reported in Greek newspapers -- before, during, and after last year's >> summer Olympics. And a recent report from the largest Dutch Jewish community >> organization, the Ashkenazi Orthodox NIK, noted that "there is less and less >> knowledge of the fact that six million Jews were murdered in the Second >> World War," and raised the question "whether this is the natural result of >> the passage of time, which leads to distance from the Holocaust, or whether >> this is the result of government policy." >> What's going on here is worthy of George Orwell: the theft of Holocaust >> remembrance by revisionists and their unwitting allies. Increasingly, >> Europeans decry genocide by reference to Rwanda and Sudan, while passing >> over the even greater atrocity that took place on their own soil. >> Among left-wing thinkers, the favoured recasting of Hitler's Final Solution >> deflects the spotlight from the wartime destruction of European Jewry to the >> postwar travails of the Palestinians. In this perversion, Israel --attacked >> by the Arabs in five wars since its founding in 1948 and still under >> constant terrorist barrage -- is no longer the haven for Hitler's Survivors, >> but the perpetrator of "ethnic cleansing," "apartheid" and abundant other >> slanders. Meanwhile, the atrocities committed by Arab suicide bombers are >> passed over lightly as the desperate acts of "militants" driven to rage by >> Israeli cruelty. While it is still fashionable for European leaders to shed >> a tear for the victims of Auschwitz, they are dry-eyed when it comes to the >> mass murders of those victims' offspring. >> Just days before 9/11, the United Nations' World Conference Against Racism >> in Durban, South Africa, showed how the global human rights agenda could be >> hijacked by bigots. The only panel on the four-day program dealing with >> anti-semitism was disrupted by pro-Palestinian zealots who insisted that >> "anti-semitism" be redefined as "anti-Arab sentiment" because Arabs -- not >> Jews -- are "the real Semites." It is a common theme in the Muslim world. In >> the United Arab Emirates, the executive director of an Arab think-tank >> recently explained that Israel has no right to exist because Jews "have >> nothing to do with Semitism or Palestine." >> Where Jews are concerned, the 21st century is witnessing the emergence of an >> unholy alliance between Muslim extremists and left-wing fellow travellers. A >> recent report by the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia, >> initially suppressed by the EU, documented the trend that recycles Jew >> hatred from Europe to the Mideast and back again -- finding its greatest >> echo among disaffected Muslim youth across the continent. As an antidote, >> the report recommended that "the governments of the EU Member States should >> undertake initiatives ... to mobilise the support of political and social >> leaders to foster Holocaust education, remembrance and research." >> But if what happened on Nov. 9 in Oslo is any indication, Holocaust >> "remembrance" is being compromised by the very disease it seeks to cure. >> Left unchecked, this new pathology could pave the way for a yet another dark >> chapter in the relationship between Europe and the Jewish people. >> Rabbi Abraham Cooper is associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Dr. >> Harold Brackman is a historian and consultant to the Center. If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT, then visit www.freedomsite.org Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!! "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." (George Orwell) David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free' "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." (Arthur Schopenhauer) "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used against them -- except force." -- John Bryant "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore." --John Bryant Posted by: Patrick Lee Humphrey 7500 Bellerive #1807 Houston, Texas 77036-3040 1-713-266-7764 Steven Horn (KCOM) 1836 NW 11th St Oklahoma City, OK 73106 (405) 524-0576 together with Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive & Henry CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984 Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even VISIT me at: 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132 We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront, Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc. We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA. We like young children, so that we can train them our way. Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts office: VISIT at: #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at: Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada or call: 1-250-616-9431 As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material should give an indication as to the why. "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles also have family albums with naked children photos in them.] Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child even if he or she were not naked"? http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters. Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar. Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights. Also,be sure to include me on maillists: Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2 I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473 And also: George Firestone: "George" , and davejoll@ihug.co.nz. Here is Fag Rianin's own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew! For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is, and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors. As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS. May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna. In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH for many years around the world. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:14 EST 2007 Article: 65433 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:376563 soc.culture.europe:590465 soc.culture.swiss:65433 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Harris = Heydrich = Kein Unterschied!! Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:10:13 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider wrote: >Ulrich Heymach wrote: >> Carla Schneider schrieb: >> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des >> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den >> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search= >Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei . >Was nutzt uns das hier ? >Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk >Oder etwas moderner: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY Etwas klarer: Harris - Heydrich: Ein Unterschied? On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider wrote: Nein. Begründung: 1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich. 2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur wie möglich zu zerstören. 3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da. 4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher- Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung. Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen. 5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich: Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet. Werner On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider wrote: Nein. Begründung: 1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich. 2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur wie möglich zu zerstören. 3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da. 4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher- Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung. Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen. 5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich: Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet. Werner From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:15 EST 2007 Article: 65464 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.german:376749 soc.culture.europe:590976 soc.culture.swiss:65464 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.swiss Subject: Harris = Heydrich = Kein Unterschied!! Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:19:12 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:28:17 +0200, Carla Schneider wrote: >Ulrich Heymach wrote: >> Carla Schneider schrieb: >> > Des Krieges der dem Deutschen Volk von den Siegermaechten des >> > ersten Weltkrieges aufgezwungen wurde, nachdem Deutschland den >> > Versailler Vertrag nicht mehr erfuellte. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjMqw1-hdYE&mode=related&search= >Wecker sagt nein zur Verfassungsschutzpartei . >Was nutzt uns das hier ? >Dir ist doch mehr nach diesem hier: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAh5mfkuAXk >Oder etwas moderner: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVMvwptPkY Etwas klarer: Harris + Heydrich: Kein Unterschied? Beide sind KampfKriminale und Moerdern! On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider wrote: Nein. Begründung: 1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich. 2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur wie möglich zu zerstören. 3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da. 4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher- Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung. Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen. 5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich: Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet. Werner On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider wrote: Nein. Begründung: 1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich. 2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur wie möglich zu zerstören. 3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da. 4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher- Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung. Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen. 5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich: Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet. Werner From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:15 EST 2007 Article: 65467 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.ukrainian:133537 soc.culture.russian:466144 soc.culture.swiss:65467 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!grolier!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.swiss Subject: ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Documented Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:50:13 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 179 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Well Documented No wonder good people really dislike ZYD Christkillers for more than 2000 years! On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip" wrote: "JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES! CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. Their burnt bodies have been found in a sewage pit. A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic Jews for ritual purposes. Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in present-day new democratic Russia. Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies. "I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said. Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder. A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the exsanguination, Mr nazarov said. The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor overweight among the jury. "The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without burial", Mr Nazarov said. "And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with the Moscow paper. http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur wrote: >A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide. >On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir >lfdsjsafd" wrote: >BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING >THE BLOOD ACCUSATION. >Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band >of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and >1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by >Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century. > Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher >(Gaume et Freres, 1845). > Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler. > Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice, >1853-4). > Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These >two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent. > Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill & >Sons). > Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913. > Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563. > A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into >England, by William Prynne, 1656. > Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant. > Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und >das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague >Cathedral. > La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue >Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs. > Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by >Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is >devoted to Ritual Murders. > Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri >Desportes, 1889 (Savine). > Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from >M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general >guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was >Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals. > Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt. > Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag). > Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927. > Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich >Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national >representation of Jewish Ritual Murder." > Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929. > Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg. >The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate >against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a >valuable historical record. > The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W. >H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898). > Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125, >439-468, and 628. >References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder >are made in the text when describing these cases. >To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the >Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion, >appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C. >Roth (Woburn Press, 1935) For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:16 EST 2007 Article: 65484 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.ukrainian:133556 soc.culture.russian:466203 soc.culture.swiss:65484 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.ukrainian,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.swiss Subject: ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Documented Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:04:51 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 179 Message-ID: <7qj0e3t6b6v5ic5ghbh3o412sug2ter8i2@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Well Documented No wonder good Christian people really dislike the ZYD Christkillers for more than 2000 years! On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip" wrote: "JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES! CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. Their burnt bodies have been found in a sewage pit. A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic Jews for ritual purposes. Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in present-day new democratic Russia. Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies. "I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said. Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder. A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the exsanguination, Mr nazarov said. The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor overweight among the jury. "The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without burial", Mr Nazarov said. "And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with the Moscow paper. http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur wrote: >A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide. >On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir >lfdsjsafd" wrote: >BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING >THE BLOOD ACCUSATION. >Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band >of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and >1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by >Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century. > Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher >(Gaume et Freres, 1845). > Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler. > Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice, >1853-4). > Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These >two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent. > Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill & >Sons). > Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913. > Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563. > A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into >England, by William Prynne, 1656. > Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant. > Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und >das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague >Cathedral. > La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue >Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs. > Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by >Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is >devoted to Ritual Murders. > Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri >Desportes, 1889 (Savine). > Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from >M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general >guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was >Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals. > Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt. > Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag). > Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927. > Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich >Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national >representation of Jewish Ritual Murder." > Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929. > Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg. >The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate >against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a >valuable historical record. > The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W. >H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898). > Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125, >439-468, and 628. >References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder >are made in the text when describing these cases. >To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the >Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion, >appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C. >Roth (Woburn Press, 1935) For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for JEW-WATCH: http://www.jewwatch.com Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!! Or, other useful websites include: ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org IHR - www.ihr.org OSTARA - www.ostara.org PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com They have lots of information, as well as books and records. Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like. From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:16 EST 2007 Article: 65485 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.swiss:65485 soc.culture.austria:53943 soc.culture.russian:466204 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-13!supernews.com!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.austria,soc.culture.russian Subject: Der Ewige Jude = The Eternal Jew/ZYD Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:04:33 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Der Ewige Jude = The Eternal Jew/ZYD - Immer die verfluechte Juden - Worth watching. It is still available at: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4664969119079760194 as well as at a few other sites, so enjoy seeing this documentary. On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:02:41 +0200, Matthias Kern wrote: >Art Franks schrieb: >> On 3 Aug 2006 14:22:20 -0700, in can.politics "Listen to Goyfire >> Radio" wrote: >> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8441356137394932381&q=eternal+jews >Very useful your posting in 6 newsgroups: From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 14:20:16 EST 2007 Article: 65489 of soc.culture.swiss Xref: sn-us soc.culture.swiss:65489 soc.culture.europe:591233 soc.culture.german:376888 Path: sn-us!sn-feed-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-11!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-xt-sjc-12!supernews.com!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.newsland.it!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Kern Newsgroups: soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german Subject: Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Verachtungstod Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:59:52 -0600 Organization: JewWatch Lines: 306 Message-ID: <1k81e3pou5j6k61n1jd441vnjl2m2s4bqs@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kPXQOryZrydbUxZAg+3BDg.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Der neue alte Antisemitismus was: Re: ZioNazis, ab in den sozialen Ver Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:55:13 -0700 Message-ID: On 10 Nov 2006 00:00:00 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc m.blumentritt@cl-hh.comlink.de (Martin Blumentritt) wrote: Der "neue Antisemitismus" - Altes Gift mit neuem Etikett Rede von Dr. Dieter Graumann - Frankfurt/Main Rede von Dr. Dieter Graumann, Präsidiumsmitglied des Zentralrats der Juden in Deutschland und Kulturdezernent der Jüdischen Gemeinde Frankfurt, anlässlich der offiziellen Gedenkveranstaltung für die Pogromnacht vom 9. November 1938 in der Paulskirche in Frankfurt/Main am 9. November 2004 In Europa blüht die alte Seuche neu auf Der 9. November 1938 gilt zu Recht gemeinhin als eine Explosion von Sadismus, von Vandalismus, von Mordlust, von Zerstörungswut. Es war der keineswegs spontane, vielmehr sorgfältig gelenkte, inszenierte, orchestrierte Ausbruch von brutaler Judenfeindschaft. Wie ist das heute? Die Pest von Antisemitismus ist nicht tot, sondern höchst lebendig. In den letzten Monaten hat es zu diesem Thema, da es leider so aktuell ist, große internationale Konferenzen und Erklärungen gegeben. Oft wird heute dabei vom "neuen Antisemitismus" gesprochen. Ist er wirklich neu? Was ist dabei neu? Oder: Handelt es sich am Ende doch nur um das alte Gift mit neuem Etikett? Und: Wie geht das moderne, aufgeklärte Europa mit dieser Seuche um? Antisemitismus vergeht nicht. Aber auch der Antisemitismus geht inzwischen mit der Zeit. Auch er geht sozusagen mit der Mode, macht sich fein und chic, um attraktiv und akzeptabel und legitim zu erscheinen. Natürlich gibt es noch den "alten" - soll man etwa sagen: den "guten alten" ? - Antisemitismus: jener, der die Juden als rassisch minderwertig qualifiziert, sie aussondern oder gar eliminieren will. Das alles gibt es noch heute - aber in dieser Schlichtheit doch eher selten. Der Antisemiti