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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0700, in ab.politics Frank Arthur
 wrote:

The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story of half a page, today 26
January 2007, exposes that fired police chief Rayner was for some unknown
reason paid HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, even though his contract had stipulated a
maximum of only $199,000!!

To confirm this info, the Journal had to force the disclosure under Freedom of
Information Act, since the Police Commission did not want the evidence made
public, as to how crooked they are!

In fact city lawyers had advised that if going to court, he would only get
probably $70,000!!

No one on the crooked Police Commission wants to explain why they OVERPAID THE
POLICE CHIEF THEY HAD FIRED, IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CONTRACT!!

One must now wonder, did someone on the commission get a kickback?

Or, were they personally liable if it went to court, for improperly firing the
disgraced chief?

No matter what, these criminally incompetent crooks in the police commission
gave away HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, without just cause!1

Each one should be personally sued to recover this money, NOW!!

Sharx, Sewbeit,Grosvenor - care to comment.



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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:07:17 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
 wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:58:39 -0700, YitzhakGoldstein
> wrote:

>>The city of Edmonton finally has opened a public snitchline.

>>Members of the public, as well as honest employees, can now 
>>make anonymous calls, to report wrong-doing by city employees.

>>The senior managers and the city unions do not want the phone 
>>number available to the public.

>>As a public service, the phone number is: 1-866-889-8297.

Now even Channel8 News is promoting the service, as a feature in tonight's
news!

>>The service is being handled by a call center in Montreal.

>>They ask what is your connection to the city of Edmonton.
>>The appropriate response, if you own a home, is "SHAREHOLDER".

>>So, Sharx, Grosvenor, Marshall, sewbeit, et al, call in all your complaints
>>about crooks in Edmonton, including about financial irregularities in EPS.

Be sure to call, often, to: 1-866-889-8297

>>And do not forget the crooks in the city tax assessment department, giving
>>preferential treatment to their "friends"

And, all the crooked cops and missing items from the "locked property room",
and so on.

>What has happened to City Auditor David Wiun?
>Did he quit, get fired for asking embarrassing questions, or what?



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Subject: Mare Admits EDE/City Incompetent in Getting Businesses - Time to FIRE EDE!! Survey
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In a rare admission of candor, Mare Mandel admitted to media that the 
city and EDE have been completely incompetent in attracting new 
business to Deadmonton.

Mind you, Grosvenor and Sharx have been stating this for years!!

Why should taxpayers be giving the friends of the mare, $8 MILLION a year,
just to wine and dine each other, without any provable results?

To add insult to injury, the Chamber of Commerce gets NO CITY FUNDS, 
but does attract new businesses.

NOW IS THE TIME TO DISSOLVE EDE, AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!
We do not need to continue to be JEWED!!

Calgary seems to be doing a great job of attracting new businesses, without
jewing the taxpayers.

Same as they did about their photo radar!! Now the revenues go to Calgary, not
some crooks in the states,who bribed local cops in Edmonton!

Perhaps Mare Mandel should hire Ipsos-reid, who themselves left Edmonton for
Calgary, to find out why Edmonton is so undesirable to businesses?

On 2 Feb 2006 11:16:12 -0800, "Loaf of Bread" 
wrote:
>Pat Humphrey wrote:
>> Another major business is leaving Edmonton, citing high costs of doing
>> business.
>>
>> After 17 years, Ipsos-Reid will be gone by the end of the month, joining the
>> exodus of larger firms that have decided to avoid doing business in the
>> anti-business city.
>>
>> Now, all the parasites in town will try to come up with all kinds of excuses,
>> other than the fact is, this city's administration are full of crooks!

The Edmonton Journal quoted the Ipsos executive, who stated the firm
had been in Edmonton 17 years, much longer even than the executive had
been with Ipsos.

Now Ipsos can join all the other businesses leaving Deadmonton, for
better cities.

>According to IPSOS own press release, the call centre has only been
>open five years, not seventeen as you claim.  You also neglect to
>mention one reason for the closure is difficulty finding enough workers
>in the highly competitive labour market.

>Edmonton, AB - Ipsos Reid formally announced today that it will close
>its Edmonton call centre effective February 28, 2006. The Edmonton
>centre has been in operation since October 2000 and employs
>approximately 200 people.

>"The decision to close the Edmonton call centre was a difficult one,
>but it has been increasingly difficult to staff the centre to full
>capacity in the highly competitive labour market of Edmonton," said
>Leslie Speirs, Senior Vice President, CATI Interviewing Services for
>Ipsos. The company noted that the call center lease expires in March
>2006 and with a major tenant slated to take over the space, the call
>centre would have been forced to move and rebuild which carries
>significant business costs associated with it. "These two factors,
>combined, caused us to make the business decision to close our
>operations" she said.

>Work will be shifted to other Ipsos Reid call centres in Winnipeg,
>Ottawa and Montreal. Ipsos will continue to maintain over 750 telephone
>interviewing stations in Canada.

>Ipsos Reid has notified the Alberta Department of Labour and will work
>with them to identify appropriate opportunities for Ipsos employees and
>to access available government support and services. All employees will
>be provided with four weeks of working notice during which we will
>support their efforts to find work. The company has also arranged
>workshops to assist employees in writing resumes and interviewing for
>new positions and are offering a resume- review service to ensure
>employees are well equipped as they begin their job searches.
>
>http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2961


A few possible reasons would include:
-Edmonton being the crime capital of Canada
-too many crooked cops, with worldwide video of police brutality
-crooked city tax assessors giving special deals to friends
-mare and council subsidizing businesses, at cost of all taxpayers
-incompetent or crooked scholl boards, losing millions with no one charged 
-the fact that the city can not adequately remove snowfalls

Readers, and even business owners, are invited to add their reasons below, 
as to why business owners are avaoiding Deadmonton


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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking"  wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks 
>wrote:

>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.

>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.

>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!

>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?

>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree. 

You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.

You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.

Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!

No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!



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All of you named Frank Arthur, be sure to reply.

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:55:57 -0500, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Grosvomit the fraud stealing the name Frank Arthur because he is too weak to
>use his own name.
>
>The real Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>and in the gray area where it says Organization: Bellsouth Internet Group
>
>The weak minded Grosvomit posts garbage
>
>
>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
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>> The original poster had asked, whether there are people willing to pay 
>> towards
>> a one-way ticket to China for child molester Whitmore, and all his crooked




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Notice that since the media gave the story great coverage, on TV and in
newspapers, the real estate parasites have suddenly become silent.

Guess they finally realised that they were giving the great services of
COMFREE lots of free publicity, which would further lesson their ripoff
commissions!!


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:34:15 GMT, DaleNorton
 wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:21:25 GMT, "Bernie" 
>wrote:
>
>>I bought my current house thru welist last june.   I found it the day it was 
>>listed, as I checked every day.  It was a low down assumable, no qualifying. 
>>I picked it up for $10K...price was $219K in Queensland..a detachted 
>>bungalow.  I'm sure it's over $300K now.  My payments are $600 bi weekly, 
>>and I thought at the time that was alot...boy if I had to buy a house now 
>>I'd be SOL.
>
>>Aren't welist and comfree the same type of thing?
>
>>I was working with a couple of real estate parasites who knew of my 
>>challenging circumstances...divorce, bankruptcy....do you think those 
>>fuckers gave a rats ass about finding a house for me and my children???  If 
>>I didn't do my homework myself, I'd be fucking homeless, or living in that 
>>disgusting rental I was in.
>
>>My boyfriend hired a family 'friend' to list his parents house (he takes 
>>care of his elderly parents) in cranston...that fucking c*nt didn't do 
>>shit...just sat there and told them to lower the price when the house didn't 
>>move.  His mom lost out on $16K in parasite fees for nothing.  It made me 
>>crazy at the time....and it wasn't even my house.  Even for elderly, 
>>disabled people on a very fixed income, those fucking parasites won't lower 
>>their commissions....not even for supposed 'friends'.  Real Eastate 
>>parasites don't know the meaning of the word friend. Or the word giving or 
>>compassion.   All they care about is money money money.   As soon as I find 
>>out someone is an agent...I really just don't even want to communicate with 
>>them at all.  They are worse than loan sharks, used car salesmen, and 
>>lawyers.
>
>Further to your comments about the f**ing parasites, even though it is
>illegal to have price-fixing in real estate, the SOB realtors refuse
>to work for less than MLS max ripoff rates!!
>
>Avoid real estate scammers, and use a competitor, such as COMFREE, for
>a few hundred dollars, and as the Dutch guy says:
>SAVE YOUR MONEY - $10,000 to $25,000!
>>Long live welist and comfree.
>>
>>Bernie
>>
>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
>>news:6p4me25rnchl9kdiohbjfab2d36o39peoi@4ax.com...
>>> With all the extra free TV publicity, the sales through COMFREE should
>>> really increase, while MLS sales should plummet.
>>>
>>> Let the realtors starve, the damn parasites!
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:36 GMT, "Bernie" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Amen brother.
>>>
>>>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message
>>>>news:c62he2d0brsbjdrecadl2a8ees9jpivh7k@4ax.com...
>>>>> Now that so many realtors are starving, because sensible home sellers
>>>>> have switched to using reasonably priced Comfree, they have filed a
>>>>> lawsuit against Comfree, and the Edmonton Journal gave it front page
>>>>> headline prominence.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is giving Comfree even more free publicity, which will result in
>>>>> even fewer sales by the parasitic realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the current real estate market, where homes are sold in a matter of
>>>>> hours or  days, only an idiot would use a parasitic real estate agent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firms such as Comfree not only save the seller from $10,000 to $20,000
>>>>> cash, which stays in the seller's pocket, instead of the realtors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comfree also provides a great set of instructions and guides on how to
>>>>> sell the house, as well as what to do regarding legal,etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the person actually owned the house, he should have enough smarts
>>>>> to read and understand the simple instructions from Comfree, thereby
>>>>> saving all the money, for himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to find a real estate agent parasite worth the bullet to
>>>>> get rid of him. All the leeches want is a listing, and then you never
>>>>> see him again. He expects some hungrier parasite to sell the property,
>>>>> and he then splits the commission, for doing nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Comfree, and save all that money, for yourself!
>>>>> Did you see this article?
>>>>> http://www.businessedge.ca/article.cfm/newsID/10851.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Aug 2006 07:03:40 -0700, insomniac_cam@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh? As a seller, I'd show you the house, give you and information on
>>>>>>what needs to be fixed....what I recently fixed and that's it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't like making realestate (or any sale for that matter)
>>>>>>personal... if I'm selling its because the house probably needs more
>>>>>>work than I want to invest in it and I'm not going to have coffee with
>>>>>>you to discuss its 'thermal efficiencies'.... egads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You either like what you see or you don't.... I absoluetly can't stand
>>>>>>people who hum and haw over the price if we both know its priced
>>>>>>fair... don't waste my time. Maybe thats why I've never tried
>>>>>>comfree..... and me and the wife both hate having someone follow us
>>>>>>around... as much as I appreciate the information from the seller, we
>>>>>>want to look at things and take time to notice any problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And if the house is a lemon and the seller knows it...unless he's a
>>>>>>retard he's hardly going to come out and tell you that... Caveat
>>>>>>Emptor. Remember he's trying to sell the house for the most he can get.
>>>>>>If you told me $10 to admission to come look at your house my wife
>>>>>>would kick you in the nuts and tell you youre crazy :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tatarewicz wrote:
>>>>>>> As a buyer my preference would be to buy directly from the owner and
>>>>>>> find out everything he knows about the house, what needs to be done to
>>>>>>> improve thermal efficiency, etc., instead of trying to figure out what
>>>>>>> the problem is (which often takes twice as long as to fix it). If
>>>>>>> heavy rainfalls have caused some problem in the past, you might start
>>>>>>> on preventative measures as soon as you can rather than have these
>>>>>>> demonstrated to you in the future with associated damage. An owner has
>>>>>>> probably given some thought to various improvements, looked into 
>>>>>>> costs,
>>>>>>> merits etc. You can benefit from the research he's done; you won't get
>>>>>>> any of this information through real estate agents; they don't want 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> owner around when showing the house. If the house is a lemon the owner
>>>>>>> might have good reason to stay out of sight.  If I were selling the
>>>>>>> house I'd charge ten dollars an hour for showing it, explaining 
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> etc., (over and above info in data sheet) to discourage non-serious
>>>>>>> tirekickers.  Tatarewicz
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 
>>



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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or should
we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?


On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
 wrote:

>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:

>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee back to Boston,
>>where the FBI picked him up!!

>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>PRISON!!
>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
________________________________________
>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:

>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>Iamhere
>>>======================================================================================
>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>> wrote:

>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!

>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>> >wrote:

>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>>> >>J.B.
>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.

>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?

>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??

>>>> >>> > wrote:

>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters

>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.

>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>>> the country for his native United States.

>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.

>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>> pornography that's out there.''

>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>>> regional intelligence officer.

>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.

>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>> difficult time.''

>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.

>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.

>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.

>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.

>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.

>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>> (Ge
>>>> (Get All

>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.

>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.

>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>>> said.

>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''

>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>>> comment.

>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>> confiscated.

>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>>> to be with his family.

>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.

>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.

>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>>> the media.
>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>>> about how we will handle this.''

>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.

>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>>> material.

>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.

>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org


>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm

>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences

>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.

>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.

>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.

>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>is a revolutionary act."
>>(George Orwell)

>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>and impossible to ignore."
>>--John Bryant



>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>office: VISIT at:
>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>should give an indication as to the why.

>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>work:(780)492-0473

>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.

>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.





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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:15 -0500, Michel Boucher 
wrote:
>SueShiksaCohen  wrote in
>news:225ef2dk78gmlbohs628vjcj52sfub6gk4@4ax.com: 

>> Canada IS, and has been for years, a sex tourism destination for
>> fags, and other child molesters.

>> Read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON" to reveal the active
>> involvement of the Canadian government in the worldwide spread of
>> AIDS to other fags outside Canada, as well as within the country.

>> Canada welcomes as so-called refugees, those scum claiming to have
>> AIDS, or even just claiming to be a fag from a country where such
>> vermin are treated as the diseased perverts they are.

>If spreading these base and groundless canulars is the only way to keep 
>the mentally challenged right-wing gormless buffoons like yourself out, 
>I'm all for it.

Why do you think that the 150 AIDS-spreaders from other countries, mainly in
thrid world parts of the world,  who attended the fag-fest in Toronto, are now
claiming to be so-called "refugees"?

This despite the fact that their hoem countries obviously ALLOWED these
diseased to feely go to Canada, and the stupid Canadian government ALLOWED
them in!!


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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.

Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, 
or should we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?



On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:28:28 GMT, "Robert Weldon"
 wrote:
>"MattMandel"  wrote in message 
>news:i6kef2lf5dtvborcpbmpuhkoefi4pkom58@4ax.com...
>> Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers,
>> J.R.Paine, still refuses to discuss the subject.
>>
>> Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or
>> should we all phone them to let them know?
>> Or, email them at jrp@jrp.ca?
>>
>
>Look at the time stamp, you stupid racist asshole.
>
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO'Neill
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2  wrote:
>>
>>>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!
>>
>>>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor 
>>>>of
>>>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, 
>>>>from
>>>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee 
>>>>back to Boston,
>>>>where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>>>PRISON!!
>>>Why wasn't the ZYD given similar jail time?
>> ________________________________________
>>>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>>
>>>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>>>Iamhere
>>>>>======================================================================================
>>>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>
>>>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>>
>>>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, 
>>>>>> soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from 
>>>>>> Synangogue
>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>
>>>>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it 
>>>>>> >>was O.K.
>>>>>> >>J.B.
>>>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>>
>>>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>>
>>>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>>
>>>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>>
>>>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who 
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>>
>>>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly 
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> the country for his native United States.
>>
>>>>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained 
>>>>>> photographs
>>>>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography 
>>>>>> stored on
>>>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>>
>>>>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of 
>>>>>> Chebucto
>>>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent 
>>>>>> of this
>>>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the 
>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was 
>>>>>> obtained
>>>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin 
>>>>>> said.
>>>>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>>>> pornography that's out there.''
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, 
>>>>>> customs'
>>>>>> regional intelligence officer.
>>
>>>>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the 
>>>>>> materials -
>>>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the 
>>>>>> ``gruesome''
>>>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the 
>>>>>> case.
>>
>>>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the 
>>>>>> arrest,
>>>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these 
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>>>>> difficult time.''
>>
>>>>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- 
>>>>>> year-old
>>>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>>
>>>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said 
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday 
>>>>>> night
>>>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>>
>>>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) 
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered 
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up 
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>>
>>>>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney 
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>>>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said 
>>>>>> later.
>>
>>>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e%231/2&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=­192">(Ge
>>>>>> >>>>> HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA08...@mailmasher.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum=192">(Get 
>>>>>> All
>>
>>>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in 
>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>>
>>>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second 
>>>>>> search
>>>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who 
>>>>>> co-operated
>>>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. 
>>>>>> ``His
>>>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>>
>>>>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. 
>>>>>> Hoskins=
>>>>>> said.
>>
>>>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every 
>>>>>> angle at
>>>>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does 
>>>>>> involve law
>>>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>>
>>>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged 
>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American 
>>>>>> agencies
>>>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, 
>>>>>> declined
>>>>>> comment.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>>>> confiscated.
>>
>>>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to 
>>>>>> Boston
>>>>>> to be with his family.
>>
>>>>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence 
>>>>>> carries a
>>>>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, 
>>>>>> arrived
>>>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. 
>>>>>> His last
>>>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to 
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, 
>>>>>> has no
>>>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>>
>>>>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said 
>>>>>> Mrs. Fox,
>>>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it 
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the media.
>>>>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still 
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> about how we will handle this.''
>>
>>>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as 
>>>>>> soon as
>>>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future 
>>>>>> cantors.
>>
>>>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>>>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the 
>>>>>> child-related
>>>>>> material.
>>
>>>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>>
>>>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>>
>>
>>>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan" 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>>
>>>>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>>
>>>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish 
>>>>>> >media
>>>>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the 
>>>>>> >Friedmans were
>>>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this 
>>>>>> >investigation.
>>
>>>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers 
>>>>>> >to 8, 9,
>>>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>>
>>>>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken 
>>>>>> >extensive
>>>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>>
>>>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!
>>
>>>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>
>>>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>
>>>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>>is a revolutionary act."
>>>>(George Orwell)
>>
>>>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>
>>>>"All truth passes through three stages.
>>>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>>>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>
>>>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>>and impossible to ignore."
>>>>--John Bryant
>>
>>
>>
>>>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>
>>>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>>office: VISIT at:
>>>>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>
>>>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>>should give an indication as to the why.
>>
>>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>
>>>>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>>even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>
>>>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>>>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>
>>>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late 
>>>>nights.
>>
>>>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>>work:(780)492-0473
>>
>>>>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>>>>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz, and Ariadne.mac@gmail.com.
>>
>>>>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>
>>>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>>JEW-WATCH:
>>>>http://www.jewwatch.com
>>
>>>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>>>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>>>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>>
>>>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>
>>>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>
>>>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>
>>>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>
>>>>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>>for many years around the world.
>>
>>>>Reply-To: "George" ,
>>>>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>>>>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>>
>> 
>



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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?

>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, "Mike"  wrote:
>>"Firnando"  wrote in message 
>>news:1157229838.487540.142230@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of "Gary Rumain" (IP: 
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He 
>>>> also uses the name "I Hate muzzies", "All muzzies are dirty, filthy, 
>>>> stinking pigs".

>Subject: GARY RUMAIN'S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER - Call/Visit Him

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT, 
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
>>On  3-Dec-2005, "Ted"  wrote:
>>> The Re'evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy "convert" Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting "Alex's" business address!

>>> OK, whatever.

>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself "Rev" etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin's - but I wish they had 
>>posted the phony rev's - all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich

>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY

>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746

>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746

>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)

>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.

>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%bTjf.9769$AB2.6571@trnddc08>
>flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.

>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out 
>and it is all true.

>>http://www.zabasearch.com/

>Using the above search I found the following also.

>>GARY A RUMAIN      Born  1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD   (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN      Born  Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD  (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house. 
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not? 
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: "Harem Scare 'Em?" Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><617cpg$p9a$14@news.smart.net>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve  wrote:
>>: In article <60snlk$hlc$9@news.smart.net>, zenda@smart.net (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you've managed to confuse me now, too.  You post under the name
>>: "Gary Rumain" and sign your postings "Susan Cohen."  Is this an instance
>>: of someone "hiding his/her identity" as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven't been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband's. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the "anonymity" to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster's was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at zenda@smart.net any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them - such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael's detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just  to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George"
>,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>



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Alan Baggett, any news that you have heard on the criminal charges against the
crooked Edmonton cops?


On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:00:58 GMT, Sew  wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:15:28 -0000, kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
>McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>Sew   wrote:
>>>On 18 Dec 2005 19:18:02 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>>>(CopsToJail) wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is time to send these crooked cops to prison, just to show that they get
>>>>no preferential treatment when it come to defrauding the tax department.
>>>>They should also be charged under the Criminal Code, with criminal conspiracy!!
>>>
>>>Wow! This reminds me of all those gangsters that made all that money
>>>but they could not beat the IRS...go get emmmm....to bad they let the
>>>bronfmans get away with all the millions and millions they owed in
>>>taxes in canada. Of course they to could have known Jean Cretian. 
>>
>>The Bronfmans owed "millions and millions in taxes" here? Will you document that, please?
>
>ooops, there are lots and lots of web pages carrying this info...just
>one more....
>
>
>
>TAXPAYER CHALLENGES GOV'T GIFT OF $700 MILLION TO WEALTHY BRONFMAN
>FAMILY 
>
>
>
>One of Canada's richest families is the focus of a Federal Court
>battle this week as a private citizen challenges hundreds of millions
>in favourable tax treatment given to the Bronfman family. 
>
>Revenue Canada is in the Federal Court of Appeal defending against
>George Harris, a Winnipeg office worker and social activist, who is
>contesting a loophole that allowed $2-billion in Bronfman family
>assets to escape the country tax free, in 1991. 
>
>"This case is about public confidence in the Canadian income tax
>system," Mr. Harris, a program officer for Canadian University
>Services Overseas (CUSO), asserts in his class-action lawsuit. 
>
>"Without general public acceptance of the integrity and fairness of
>our income tax regime, no amount of assessment and enforcement action
>by government will be able to protect the tax base and ensure the
>collection of essential public revenues." 
>
>The court challenge, being heard March 9th, comes amid persistent
>rumours that Edgar Bronfman Jr. is looking to sell Seagram Co. Ltd.,
>the Montreal-based liquor and entertainment giant. 
>
>Mr. Harris' three-year-old legal fight was prompted by a controversial
>tax ruling by Revenue Canada in 1991 that allowed the Bronfmans to
>move more than $2-billion worth of Seagram Co. stock, held in two
>family trusts, to the United States without paying capital gains tax.
>The decision allowed the family to avoid as much as $700-million in
>taxes. 
>
>Revenue Canada is appealing a January 1999 ruling by Federal Court
>Judge Francis Muldoon, who allowed the lawsuit to go ahead in the
>public interest, concluding that allowing the Bronfman billions to
>escape untaxed smacks of "favouritism" and "grave maladministration." 
>
>Government lawyers will challenge Judge Muldoon's decision by arguing
>Canada's tax system is based on "strict confidentiality" and Mr.
>Harris has no direct interest in the case. 
>
>"The law in any event does not permit one taxpayer or citizen to
>challenge the income tax treatment of the transactions or affairs of
>another taxpayer," says Revenue Canada's written court submission. "To
>allow such a challenge is . . . inconsistent with our system of tax
>administration." 
>
>Revenue Canada lawyers add the public interest is already being
>addressed in a "normal and lawful manner," since legislation is being
>considered. 
>
>After a severe rebuke from Denis Desautels, the Auditor-General, the
>government announced in October 1996 it would introduce new rules to
>ensure taxes are paid on assets moving out of the country that have
>increased in value during their time in Canada. 
>
>But more than three years later, legislation has not been passed. 
>
>The much-debated departure tax has encountered stiff opposition in
>Liberal strongholds like Vancouver and Toronto, where immigrant
>communities balk at the prospect of investors and entrepreneurs coming
>into Canada being forced to list their assets and pay capital gains on
>profits accrued during their time in the country. 
>
>The business community also has been opposed, saying it would create
>an unwanted barrier for investors in and operators of private
>companies. 
>
>In his earlier ruling, Judge Muldoon admonished government officials
>for treating Mr. Harris like a "nobody" by arguing that he had no
>right to challenge Revenue Canada's practice. 
>
>"Mr. Harris brings this action on behalf of his fellow taxpayers,
>except the favoured few, for the few will never be heard of to
>complain of the official favouritism," Judge Muldoon wrote. 
>
>"The fair-minded, objective observer must surely smell at least the
>grave maladministration here ... One can only imagine the benefit to
>the country and to national programs such sums could have
>contributed." 
>
>Mr. Harris, a member of a social advocacy group called CHOICES, argues
>he has as much right to challenge tax treatment as he does other
>government expenditures. 
>
>"The plaintiff submits matters of tax assessment and collection raise
>the very same public interest concern as matters of direct financial
>expenditure. There is no substantive difference between a dollar of
>tax revenue forgone and a dollar of public money expended by
>government." 
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01"  wrote:
>Leftists = traitors  wrote in message
>news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S.  Our dollars are within 13% of
>> each other.
>> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S.  Of
>> course, we KNOW who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers.
>> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't
>> re-price books falls on deaf ears.  It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and
>> their cabal.

>They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with
>the globalist Bilderberg gangsters.  They should be watched in case they are
>involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and
>spying.  They could be sending and recieving more than books.

And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary
definition!!



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The OP seems to be JamesD, a disgusting pervert, presently under police
investigation. Just ask Det. Palamattan of EPS.

It seems that his picture, or one identical, was featured just over a week
ago, in connection with an assault on a young woman in north Edmonton.

With ISPs cancelling him all around the world, he is now forced to use
anonymous remailers.


On 14 Aug 2006 06:30:31 -0700, "aaronhirshberg@yahoo.com"
 wrote:
>Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:
>> I'm an AIDS infested Queer who preys on Edmonton's children
>>
>> Somebody come to my home and give me a good beating before I rape
>> another little boy!!  End my torment NOW!!!
>>
>> William Grosvenor - 780 475-9668 9208 - 137 Avenue, Northtown Mall
>> area, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>
>I am pretty sure that this William Grosvenor fellow is going to be
>calling the Police to have you arrested, and then file an enormous law
>suit against you.  Too bad for you.
>
>If you are going to try to make this believeable, don't use a name like
>"William Grosvenor".  Pick one of the following names:
>
>George Walker Bush
>Michael Savage
>Jim Guckert
>Rush Limbaugh
>Karl Rove



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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:48:46 GMT, Chom Noamsky  wrote:
>John Galt wrote:
>> Roy wrote:
>>> JG: You are one cold fish.

>> The warmth was sucked from my bones, last tax season -- when the
>> liberal lefties took all my hard earned money as it is; so exscuse me
>> if I don' t support added taxation to rectify what amounts to other
>> peoples lifestyle choices.

>Your opinion epitomizes the folly of myopic conservatives - they fail to see
>long-term economic benefits of social welfare.  AIDS is here in our society
>and you can't unring a bell.  

>The course of action is:

>[1] spend a fortune treating the symptoms, as we are now

Waste of money.

>[2] finding a cure for the disease

Let those involved waste their own money.

>[3] stop all spending and hope the problem just goes away

If spending is stopped, perhaps all the diseased fags will just die, thereby
ending the problem.

>[4] the Galt solution - stand on the street corner giving morality lectures
>and passing judgment on the infected

>Which do you think is the most realistic solution?  

Isolating all the diseased fags on some arctic island, where they can either
live or die.

If necessary lease a gulag from Russia.



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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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The useless cops STILL HAVE NOT caught the serial killer of 107 women!!

Is this because it is one of them?

As former cop Quinn qrote: There is a conspiracy of silence, when it comes to
cops' wrongdoing"!


On 21 Aug 2006 15:35:08 -0700, "NoMoreCrap"  wrote:
>Jules Striker and his sock puppets wrote:
>
>> Regrettably, all the news reports are correct and TRUE.
>
>However, YOU distort the truth to suit your needs.
>
>> the Edmonton Journal newspaper, as well as the TV stations hardly have a day pass, without
>> yet another expose of more police brutality!!
>
>Well, TODAY passed without one.
>
>Here's what the Journal reported on the cops today.
>
>edmontonjournal.com
>Published: Monday, August 21, 2006
>Edmonton Police made three arrests and discovered a cache of weapons
>after noticing a vehicle run a red light at the intersection of 104th
>Avenue and 101st Street Sunday morning.

>More on this at:  http://tinyurl.com/fno6f
>
>Time to tell the truth;
>NoMoreCrap



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Is that why since the Estey Commission enquiry into abuses by Extortion
Canada, most people think that CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANTS?

Why isn't CRA going after those restaurants and bars, where the OWNERS are
pocketing all the tips paid by credit cards, and NOT DECLARING THE TIPS AS
INCOME?

Guess the CRA feel it is easier to collect from wage slaves, rather than going
after the big crooks?

On 18 Sep 2006 21:01:21 -0700, "Alan Baggett" 
wrote:

>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c3436a12-b8f8-426f-a9c0-7f95ca066b21&k=58561

>Hospitality workers blame accountants for advice on hiding tips

>By Dean Beeby

>OTTAWA (CP) - Waiters, waitresses and bartenders say their accountants
>often advise them not to declare some of their tips when filing
>income-tax returns, according to a new federal study.

>In a series of focus groups earlier this year, hospitality workers
>admitted to hiding a portion of their tip income - but blamed tax
>professionals for encouraging the illegal behaviour.

>"Those participants who indicated that they sought guidance from a tax
>professional suggested that accountants or other taxation professionals
>often advised them to underestimate the amount of tips they earned,
>referred to as 'doing the minimum'," says the report for Canada Revenue
>Agency.

>"This further reinforces the apathetic attitude that exists with
>respect to claiming tips and gratuities as income."

>The $35,000 report by Corporate Research Associates, delivered in May,
>examined the attitudes of 96 hospitality workers in four cities -
>Edmonton, Toronto, Peterborough and Halifax.
>
>All participants worked full-time in a restaurant or bar, and almost
>all used tax professionals to file their income taxes.
>
>The study is part of an effort by the agency to flush out more of the
>underground economy, estimated to be worth up to $15 billion each year.
>The hospitality industry is a target because of the high proportion of
>cash transactions with often-shoddy record-keeping.
>
>Most of the 96 workers acknowledged they rarely keep written records of
>their gratuities, and often collude with fellow workers about what
>percentage of their wages they should declare as tip income at tax
>time.
>
>"The percentage reported is often influenced by other employees within
>one establishment, as employees do 'agree' on what to report each year
>to avoid raising red flags with the agency," says the report.
>
>Most declared between seven and 15 per cent, with the most common at 10
>per cent. Tax laws, however, require that all tip income be recorded
>and declared.
>
>The report urges the Canada Revenue Agency to further investigate how
>tax preparers may be encouraging illegal behaviour.
>
>"A separate study among taxation professionals is needed to reach a
>conclusion regarding their role in this aspect of the underground
>economy," the authors recommend.
>
>Workers also indicated that if audits were more frequent or systematic
>in their industry, they might be more honest about tip income.
>
>"Bar and restaurant employees do not perceive a real risk of getting
>caught for improperly reporting tips, as very few of them know or have
>heard of someone getting audited," says the report.
>
>"Very few employees suggested that having a clear conscience, being
>honest, and having integrity are sufficient motivators to impact on
>their wrongful reporting behaviours."
>
>Many also resented being targeted by the agency, saying they're small
>fry compared with the construction industry's role in the underground
>economy.
>
>A spokeswoman for the Canada Revenue Agency said officials are still
>considering whether to investigate tax professionals.
>
>"The suggestion identified in the report will be reviewed and our
>strategy will be determined after a complete evaluation," Beatrice
>Fenelon said in an interview.
>
>She added that the agency has 1,250 employees working on compliance,
>and that the hospitality industry is not specially targeted.
>
>David Perry of the Canadian Tax Foundation said tax professionals are
>often former Canada Revenue Agency workers, or have been briefed by
>agency employees, and know the accepted rules of thumb within
>government about tip income.
>
>"You want them to pay a fair share of tax, and an amount of tax that
>will not trigger further enquiries, that is, an audit," he said from
>Toronto. "So you try and stay within the guidelines."
>
>But he also noted that with the rising number of electronic payments
>through Interac, there's less cash being used in the hospitality
>industry and fewer opportunities to hide revenues, including tip
>income. 
>
>© The Canadian Press 2006



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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:35:52 -0700, in ab.politics Frank Arthur
 wrote:

The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story of half a page, today 26
January 2007, exposes that fired police chief Rayner was for some unknown
reason paid HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, even though his contract had stipulated a
maximum of only $199,000!!

To confirm this info, the Journal had to force the disclosure under Freedom of
Information Act, since the Police Commission did not want the evidence made
public, as to how crooked they are!

In fact city lawyers had advised that if going to court, he would only get
probably $70,000!!

No one on the crooked Police Commission wants to explain why they OVERPAID THE
POLICE CHIEF THEY HAD FIRED, IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE CONTRACT!!

One must now wonder, did someone on the commission get a kickback?

Or, were they personally liable if it went to court, for improperly firing the
disgraced chief?

No matter what, these criminally incompetent crooks in the police commission
gave away HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, without just cause!1

Each one should be personally sued to recover this money, NOW!!

Sharx, Sewbeit,Grosvenor - care to comment.



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In a rare admission of candor, Mare Mandel admitted to media that the 
city and EDE have been completely incompetent in attracting new 
business to Deadmonton.

Mind you, Grosvenor and Sharx have been stating this for years!!

Why should taxpayers be giving the friends of the mare, $8 MILLION a year,
just to wine and dine each other, without any provable results?

To add insult to injury, the Chamber of Commerce gets NO CITY FUNDS, 
but does attract new businesses.

NOW IS THE TIME TO DISSOLVE EDE, AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY!!
We do not need to continue to be JEWED!!

Calgary seems to be doing a great job of attracting new businesses, without
jewing the taxpayers.

Same as they did about their photo radar!! Now the revenues go to Calgary, not
some crooks in the states,who bribed local cops in Edmonton!

Perhaps Mare Mandel should hire Ipsos-reid, who themselves left Edmonton for
Calgary, to find out why Edmonton is so undesirable to businesses?

On 2 Feb 2006 11:16:12 -0800, "Loaf of Bread" 
wrote:
>Pat Humphrey wrote:
>> Another major business is leaving Edmonton, citing high costs of doing
>> business.
>>
>> After 17 years, Ipsos-Reid will be gone by the end of the month, joining the
>> exodus of larger firms that have decided to avoid doing business in the
>> anti-business city.
>>
>> Now, all the parasites in town will try to come up with all kinds of excuses,
>> other than the fact is, this city's administration are full of crooks!

The Edmonton Journal quoted the Ipsos executive, who stated the firm
had been in Edmonton 17 years, much longer even than the executive had
been with Ipsos.

Now Ipsos can join all the other businesses leaving Deadmonton, for
better cities.

>According to IPSOS own press release, the call centre has only been
>open five years, not seventeen as you claim.  You also neglect to
>mention one reason for the closure is difficulty finding enough workers
>in the highly competitive labour market.

>Edmonton, AB - Ipsos Reid formally announced today that it will close
>its Edmonton call centre effective February 28, 2006. The Edmonton
>centre has been in operation since October 2000 and employs
>approximately 200 people.

>"The decision to close the Edmonton call centre was a difficult one,
>but it has been increasingly difficult to staff the centre to full
>capacity in the highly competitive labour market of Edmonton," said
>Leslie Speirs, Senior Vice President, CATI Interviewing Services for
>Ipsos. The company noted that the call center lease expires in March
>2006 and with a major tenant slated to take over the space, the call
>centre would have been forced to move and rebuild which carries
>significant business costs associated with it. "These two factors,
>combined, caused us to make the business decision to close our
>operations" she said.

>Work will be shifted to other Ipsos Reid call centres in Winnipeg,
>Ottawa and Montreal. Ipsos will continue to maintain over 750 telephone
>interviewing stations in Canada.

>Ipsos Reid has notified the Alberta Department of Labour and will work
>with them to identify appropriate opportunities for Ipsos employees and
>to access available government support and services. All employees will
>be provided with four weeks of working notice during which we will
>support their efforts to find work. The company has also arranged
>workshops to assist employees in writing resumes and interviewing for
>new positions and are offering a resume- review service to ensure
>employees are well equipped as they begin their job searches.
>
>http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2961


A few possible reasons would include:
-Edmonton being the crime capital of Canada
-too many crooked cops, with worldwide video of police brutality
-crooked city tax assessors giving special deals to friends
-mare and council subsidizing businesses, at cost of all taxpayers
-incompetent or crooked scholl boards, losing millions with no one charged 
-the fact that the city can not adequately remove snowfalls

Readers, and even business owners, are invited to add their reasons below, 
as to why business owners are avaoiding Deadmonton


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Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
activists are sel;ling white poppies.

The Legion feels that they, and the red poppies, should be the only group
making money.

Why did the Legion not complain about the ZYD HOLOHOAX Day when the Liberals
had it, at taxpayer expense?


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:31:31 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:

>It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
>the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
>Lieberals, !!
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky 
>wrote:
>
>Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
>52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, 
>not forgetting the notorious KASTNER  CASE!!
>
>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>
>
>>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg  wrote:
>>>From: Nemo 
>>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of  All Holocausts Of 20th Century--Not Just Jews
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>
>>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>
>>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>>officers at Katyn by Stalin's Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler's Nazis.
>
>>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>>murdered by Mao in his "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution".
>
>>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>
>>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>>in world history.
>
>>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>
>>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the 
>>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>
>>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>>government.
>>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>>get no such treatment.
>>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and 
>>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having 
>>>CHRIST killed!!
>
>
>>>LisaMcVay@wowmail.com (LisaMcVay) wrote in message 
>>>news:<9679f676.0311291332.73304b41@posting.google.com>...
>>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>
>>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>
>>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>
>>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>>> COM