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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:45:39 -0500, James Fenimoore 
wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:21:41 -0500, <4len83hsv3f4qbb5mgft1u03mke3qqn2d3@4ax.com>, Steve
>Craig  wrote:
>>On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 07:50:59 -0500, , "Caduceas"
>><4w2weez09@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>"The Chief Instigator"  wrote in message 
>>>news:szkzm2cxs29.fsf@eris.io.com...
>>>> James Fenimoore  writes:
>>>>>On Tue,  3 Jul 2007 16:24:43 -0600 (MDT),
>>>>>, RobertScottBradbury
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>Three of his usenet accounts.  He's lost Supernews, Newsguy, and Shaw.
>>>>>>What a great day for the pro abortionests and people who believe the
>>>>>>holocost is real.

>>>>>Forgery of Robert Scott Bradbury by Steven Craig Horn.

>>>> You keep bleating that like you want someone to believe it.

>>>>>I'll be sure to let Bradbury know!

>>>> Now *that* would be entertainment, considering that the Blubber of 
>>>> Bellville is about 99+% likely to be dead, already.  (Good riddance to bad rubbish.)

>>>> -- 
>>>>   Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com)  Houston, Texas
>>>>    chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php  (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>>>>                LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
>>>>               NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA

>>>Bradbury is Fenimore

>>You have an unnatural obsession with Bradbury which makes me believe you are one
>>of those homosexualist stalker types.

>You've noticed that too. I am surprised Horn hasn't accused you of being Bradbury as well
>as he's accused me seeing how his big mouth had boasted just hours ago:

>On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:15:37 -0500, <_%yii.8$aJ1.0@newsfe17.lga>, "Caduceas"
> wrote: "If you wonder who grassed
>your Supernews, Newsguy, and Shaw accounts, it was me.  I don't care if I'm
>called a netkop, you lost three accounts.   I'm glad and proud I ToSed  you."

>I am still posting from newsguy and I see you used supernews.

>A local news paper quoted Horn's father as saying about Steve Horn "mentally 
>unstable and a potential danger to himself and others":

>http://www.mwcsun.com/local/local_story_050094629.html

>Published: February 19, 2007 09:46 am             

>40-gun cache

>Man arrested for alleged threats against woman’s children

>By Eric Bradshaw, staff writer
>The Sunday Sun

>An Oklahoma City man accused of threatening to shoot a woman’s children 
>was arrested Thursday just after midnight at his home.

>Spencer Police filed charges Tuesday against Steven Craig Horn, 46, for 
>allegedly making death threats against an area woman and her children by 
>e-mail and for making a harassing phone call. Horn was charged with two 
>counts of using a computer to put another person in fear of harm or death 
>and one count of making harassing phone calls. 

>According to court records, Horn allegedly wrote in one e-mail, “What 
>you did between (a woman Horn claims is a former girlfriend) and I means 
>that you can kiss your two sons good-bye. Remember I’m GOD. I decide who 
>lives and who dies and your two boys die.”

>In another, he is alleged to have written, “Remember I have a .45 automatic 
>and can take your b.....d sons out.”

>Spencer Det. Olan Boydston said he received information from Oklahoma City 
>Police that Horn called them on July 7 threatening to kill himself and 
>requesting to be put in protective custody. He had been self-medicating with 
>Valium and alcohol, Boydston reported.

>Boydston’s report said Oklahoma City Police confiscated 21 firearms from 
>Horn at the time, but later returned them. They had been investigating a 
>threatening call Horn allegedly made to Garland, Texas Police. Horn allegedly 
>threatened to “shoot the judge and the pig cop that gave her (his former 
>girlfriend) a ticket.” 

>Boydston received an anonymous call traced to Horn’s phone after he interviewed 
>the man, the police report said. “I am God, and I also still have my Ruger P-90 
>and it has a bullet with your name on it,” Horn reportedly told him.

>A cache of 40 firearms was confiscated from Horn’s home along with a computer 
>with images of young girls. 

>Horn’s father allegedly said his son was mentally unstable and a potential danger 
>to himself and others.... [end]

>That last line says it all and why would Steve Horn have pictures of young girls 
>on his computer? Just count all of the people that nut case threatened with being
>shot to death. It's serious stuff to threaten a judge, a police investigator and a
>policeman as well as a woman and her two young sons. Why Horn is still on the loose is
>anyone's guess but he should be put away at least into a mental sanitarium for the
>criminally insane.

>JF


Better yet, give him the Death Penalty.
Then one is certtain he will never re-offend!!


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Oklahoma Cityian Steven KCOM Horn is mentally unstable according to his father

On Mon,  2 Jul 2007 17:30:05 +0200 (CEST), in alt.revisionism Nomen Nescio
 wrote:

http://www.mwcsun.com/local/local_story_050094629.html

Published: February 19, 2007 09:46 am

40-gun cache

Man arrested for alleged threats against woman’s children

By Eric Bradshaw, staff writer
The Sunday Sun

An Oklahoma City man accused of threatening to shoot a woman’s children
was arrested Thursday just after midnight at his home.

Spencer Police filed charges Tuesday against Steven Craig Horn, 46, for
allegedly making death threats against an area woman and her children by
e-mail and for making a harassing phone call. Horn was charged with two
counts of using a computer to put another person in fear of harm or death
and one count of making harassing phone calls.

According to court records, Horn allegedly wrote in one e-mail, “What
you did between (a woman Horn claims is a former girlfriend) and I means
that you can kiss your two sons good-bye. Remember I’m GOD. I decide who
lives and who dies and your two boys die.”

In another, he is alleged to have written, “Remember I have a .45 automatic
and can take your b.....d sons out.”

Spencer Det. Olan Boydston said he received information from Oklahoma City
Police that Horn called them on July 7 threatening to kill himself and
requesting to be put in protective custody. He had been self-medicating with
Valium and alcohol, Boydston reported.

Boydston’s report said Oklahoma City Police confiscated 21 firearms from
Horn at the time, but later returned them. They had been investigating a
threatening call Horn allegedly made to Garland, Texas Police. Horn allegedly
threatened to “shoot the judge and the pig cop that gave her (his former
girlfriend) a ticket.”

When charges were not filed, Horn’s guns were returned.

Boydston received an anonymous call traced to Horn’s phone after he
interviewed the man, the police report said.

“I am God, and I also still have my Ruger P-90 and it has a bullet with your
name on it,” Horn reportedly told him.

A cache of 40 firearms was confiscated from Horn’s home along with a computer
with images of young girls. No information was given on possible charges
related to the images.

Horn’s father allegedly said his son was mentally unstable and a potential
danger to himself and others.

Boydston’s investigation

The report listed a number of dates associated with the case. The timeline of
events and Boydston’s investigation is as follows:

Sept. 1, 2005 — a threatening call made to the Garland, Texas police station

Dec. 15, 2005 — Oklahoma City Det. Ron Bradford and an inspector interview
Bradford’s “former girlfriend” who said he bought a rifle from Wal-mart while
on a date

Dec. 21, 2005 — Oklahoma City Police confiscate 21 firearms, talk to suspect;
eventually firearms are returned and no charges filed

Oct. 30, 2006 — Boydston receives the case. He interviews the victim and takes
a look at the e-mails and the profile of the suspect on an Internet dating Web
site.

Nov. 2, 2006 — Boydston contacts the OU Police Department’s Health Services
Division and gets them to search their database; he identifies the suspect,
interviews him and later receives a phone call.

Nov. 3, 2006 — Boydston meets with Judge Russell Hall at 10 a.m. and obtains a
warrant for Horn’s arrest. At 4 p.m. Boydston meets with the Will Rogers
Division of the Oklahoma City Police Department and receives information about
their previous investigation of Horn.

Tuesday — charges filed by Spencer Police

Thursday — Oklahoma City Police arrest Horn at his home

*************************************************************************************

http://www.newsok.com/article/3014189/

Sat February 17, 2007
City man faces charges of using computer to threaten, harass
By Ann Kelley
Staff Writer

SPENCER — An Oklahoma City man is charged with threatening to kill a woman and
a Spencer police officer who was investigating the woman's claims that the man
was stalking her.

Steven Craig Horn, 41, was charged Wednesday in Oklahoma County District Court
with two felony counts of using a computer to put another person in fear of
death, and a misdemeanor charge of making harassing telephone calls.

Horn was arrested Nov. 9 after police served a search warrant at his home and
confiscated 40 firearms, computers and computer disks, according to court
records.

According to court records, Hamm was investigating a complaint from Melanie
Gay Jenkins of Spencer, who gave police two threatening e-mails from Horn.

Horn remains free on $5,000 bail.

**************************************************************************************

Steven Craig Horn aka KCOM aka Caduceus
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576
shorn@spamcop.net
kcom@breakthru.com
me@privacy.com
4w2weez02@sneakemail.com



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In fact he is now targetting some of those posting libel about him,
and getting ready for some interesting lawsuits against them, for
defamation!!

Guess some residents in Texas are now getting fearful, now that 
their ISP's have been served?

He is still spreading the truth about filthy ZHIDS and their
depredations, as are some colleagues around the world in 
several countries infested by ZHIDS!!

Wasn't that him in the big city computer store getting a whopping 
new system costing many thousands?

Looks like the IRS are going to collect a huge pile from all the crooks 
that he turned in, which is why they paid him for the info?

Seems he moved to San Antonio, to do more work for the IRS.
With all they are paying him to expose the jew frauds, will he have 
enough to buy a house next to Harry Mazal?

That sure looked like Blubberbury in the local Century 21 office, looking 
for a deal on a house......

He must have got a bundle from the IRS, for giving them evidence so they 
can collect from crooks like Harry Mazal, Ken McVay, Patrick Humphrey, 
and all the rest of the gang....


On Tue, 24 May 2005 04:20:55 GMT, Steve_Talbot@yahoo.com (Steve
Talbot) wrote:
>On 16 May 2005 09:32:35 -0700,
><1116261155.965796.29960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Chris Larson"
> wrote:

>>Where is Scott Bradbury/ Doc Tavish?  Anyone know.

>He's in other news groups which aren't over-run with trolls such as yourself.
>Try to do a google search and see if you can find him. He has taken measures to
>prevent trolls from stalking him to greener pastures where he now has an
>interested audience.

>Ciao

On Tue,  5 Sep 2006 16:10:03 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio 
wrote:
>....gone from the usenet for good .



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Bradbury has sure beaten the fat sow Salzman, in the latest series of
documented proof presented by Bradbury.
>From all the pictures of the morbidly obese Salzman, it is a wonder that
anyone, even her spouse, would stay close to her.
The stench must be appalling. 
Does she have to hypnotize her mate to keep him?

Salzman just can not deny all the actual FACTS filed by Bradbury,
contradicting all her lies.

Could it be that Bradbury, now apparently working for the US Government, 
will be deliberately buying his new home in the midst of all his detractors?


On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:50:37 -0500, Doc Tavish 
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:03:05 -0600,
>, Sara Salzman
> wrote:
>>In article ,
>> WyattEarp  wrote:

>>> Rumor is that he is working undercover elsewhere in the USA, getting
>>> evidence on some real criminals, who just happen to belong to a
>>> certain ethnic minority.

>>Under cover? BRADBURY? There are no covers large enough for him to hide 
>>under, unless you're referring to some kind of circus tent.

>You have never seen me Sara and once again you are relying on smear from a
>proven criminal element and liar named Yale F. Edeiken YET you on the other hand
>are very obese. I.E.
>http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif 

>>> He is far from deceased, and is still very active against those who
>>> tried to defame him. 

>>Really? Since there's no one who tried to "defame" him (doesn't someone 
>>have to have _fame_ in order to be de-famed?), your statement doesn't 
>>make any sense.

>You are guilty of defamation.

>>If you're referring to those of us who were honestly concerned about his 
>>spiraling mental health, 

>Funny that all the people who expose you for what you are have "spiraling mental
>health" and that you claim as shown below: "there isn't a single person who has
>heard a peep out of him. Not me, not Pat, not Yale, not anyone" when:

>1) You have confessed to being RETARDED:
>On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman  wrote: 
>     "How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!" 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-- 
> Message ID:  
>       (Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2) 

>2) Yale has confessed to being "mentally unstable" and a "crazy man": 
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/79dab24b047e1e68
>From: "Yale F. Edeiken" 
>Subject: Re: The Common Thread To All These Cancel Announcements...
>Message-ID: 
>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:06:26 GMT
> Defendant Bradshit  wrote
> in message news:7lp1otkrsh37k7ioip5nbd61u0j3nr47fn@4ax.com...

>[...]

>> Care to tell all of us why both Todd Miller and Paul Trainor distanced 
>> themselves from you

>    Because they were dealing with someone who was "mentally unstable"
>(their dscription) and a "crazy man" (again, their description) who they
>wanted to go away as quckly as possible.
>
>	             ~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

>3) Patrick has confessed to peeking into windows:
>"[I]f I'm out at night, just look for anyone peeking into windows..." Patrick L.
>Humphrey 
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.feminism/msg/729ac178ff1f8660?fwc=1 
>(Archived locally as: PatrickThePeeper) 
>Subject: Re: PATRICK "THE STALKER?" 
>Date: 1996/09/03 

>For further reading about my opposition's mental states read:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/623165aa1b6c029b?fwc=1
>Subject: My Opposition Proven to be Mentally Unstable, Delusional, Peeping Toms,
>and Retarded 
>Message-ID: <3o38t15bfcpqcqiom7k4bpeolk358gcm95@4ax.com>
>Date: 22 Jan 2006 23:00:49 GMT

>     ~~Sara Salzman's "CPS" Affidavit Perjury Documented~~
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddf877bf49b153c2?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality Revealed.
>Message-ID: 
>Date: 27 Jul 2005 22:18:07 GMT
>  Sara Salzman's poor damage control and diversion countered with:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6ffc6ccf93e09d37?fwc=1
>Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality
>Revealed.
>Message-ID: <9qphe1ttfrdjeu9hsjj4iqt2v35hq25mnf@4ax.com>
>References: 
>
>Date: 28 Jul 2005 14:18:58 GMT
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Perjury is also a criminal offense which makes Sara a criminal by definition!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Overview of noun perjurer
> The noun perjurer has 1 sense (no senses from tagged texts)
> perjurer, false witness -- (a person who deliberately gives false testimony) 
>Coordinate Terms (sisters) of noun perjurer
> storyteller, fibber, fabricator -- (someone who tells lies) 
> liar, prevaricator -- (a person who has lied or who lies repeatedly)
>

>>there isn't a single person who has heard a peep out of him.

>I have been very busy and especially concerning imminent legal action against a
>criminal cabal.

>>Not me, not Pat, not Yale, not anyone.

>>On the other hand, he may be hiding from the police himself, since he 
>>became silent right after the San Antonio fire.

>That is a major lie. Care to get Harry W. Mazal to either sue me out right or to
>file a criminal complaint with law enforcement rather than smearing me with
>actionable libel namely implying I'm an arsonist? Does Mazal assume civil
>liability for your big fat mouth?

>>> Is he now using other non-de-plumes, and different ISPs, from where he
>>> is currently working?

>>WORKING?!?!?! Bradbury hasn't worked in years. He lives off the 
>>government teat

>Another lie. I had an early medical retirement with full benefits and have
>posted such fact numerous times. Care to deny it you fat disgusting pig?

>> in a tar-paper shack.
>
>Another lie meant to smear me. I'm sorry to expose your bile but local
>ordinances don't approve of tar paper shacks within city limits!

>> He claims he is "retired," but has 
>>never provided a scintilla of proof that he EVER had a real job.

>Because it is NOT one bit of your g.d. business you big fat disgusting pig.

>>Sorry, Anonymous Coward. Bradbury ran away. No one in law enforcement 
>>has ever taken him seriously. He couldn't move his sorry ass from 
>>Bellville if he had two tractor trailers moving him.

>We will see how much you will be running your big fat mouth in the future you
>fat pig! I haven't been in hiding but many of your fellow pukes are in hiding
>and you know it!!

>Proof Sara Salzman is a big fat pig who confessed to being retarded in public
>forum:

>On 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT, Sara Salzman  wrote: 
>  "How many times do I have to tell you-- I AM RETARDED!!!"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Message ID:  
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9d9e9b42701ff692?fwc=1
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/9d9e9b42701ff692?dmode=source
>Date: 07 Jul 2003 01:31:53 GMT
>(Archived locally as: RetardSara and RetardSara2)
><I have known you to be a retard for many years! Picture of the self confessed
>mental retardee: http://www.westword.com/issues/2000-08-10/news/feature3_4.gif 
>Don't even think about Nuking your confession from GOOGLE you sow because it is
>archived locally by myself and others! We learned about how you say things and
>then later deny doing such and how you NUKE archives and then act as though we
>made it all up such as your Torture S&M Bondage works which some of us had the
>foresight to archive figuring you would NUKE them!>>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>SARA SALZMAN HAD TO BE TELLING THE TRUTH WHEN SHE MADE A SELF ADMISSION ABOUT
>HER RETARDATION AND WE HAVE HER WORDS BELOW TO PROVE WHAT SHE STATED ABOVE HAS
>TO BE TRUE!!
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/defaec4891d9856a
>(Archived locally as: SaraLiedNOTlies1)
>From: Sara Salzman 
>Subject: Re: Who Are the Liars? aka Re: Yo, idiotchild...
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:50:03 -0700
>Message-ID: 
>"You can scream in caps all you want, but I have never lied... Sara"
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"I have, Dr. Homeland, NEVER lied to anyone. Not in this forum, not to 
>the police, not to the media... Sara"
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a31eefeec1d87ece
>(Archived locally as: SaraLiedNOTlies3)
>From: Sara Salzman 
>Subject: David Michael -- insane?
>Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 09:45:23 -0600
>Message-ID: 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Sara

>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/514d1e8240b88a7c?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman's "Day, time, place. I'm waiting" and From Whence It Came!
>V5.0  (Corrections Made)   T_0822
>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:49:21 -0500
>Message-ID: 
>	   MORE LIES EXPOSED IN RELATION TO THE ABOVE:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1396457beb27db68?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman Caught in Two New Lies!! My BUT How That Daughter of
>Belial Can Lie!! aka Re: Scott Bradbury Continues to Demonstrate his Psychosis
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:53:01 -0500
>Message-ID: 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e5a29037c5e168c8?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman Caught in Third New Lie (Possibly Four Lies) in the past
>24 Hours!!!  aka Re: Scott Bradbury Continues to Demonstrate his Psychosis
>Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:01:12 -0500
>Message-ID: 
>--------------------------------------------------------
>The above archives catalog how Sara tells one lie right after another in order
>to cover for her previous lie! Truly hilarious and at the same time pathetic
>seeing how the slob is connected to two "Holocaust Research Web Sites." Who in
>their right mind would take the word of a demonstrated liar such as Sara "The
>Fist" Salzman? Also see:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/74d17effed6ddec?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman's Recent Lies Documented and Archived. V2.0  T_0807
>Message-ID: <9sedf1tc6173cb8koe77njdo7nb9inn6up@4ax.com>
>Date: 8 Aug 2005 02:04:13 GMT
>-----------------------------
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/ddf877bf49b153c2?fwc=1
>Subject: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality Revealed.
>Message-ID: 
>Date: 27 Jul 2005 22:18:07 GMT
>  Sara Salzman's poor damage control and diversion countered with:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6ffc6ccf93e09d37?fwc=1
>Subject: Re: Sara Salzman's Affidavit Perjury. One Example of Criminality
>Revealed.
>Message-ID: <9qphe1ttfrdjeu9hsjj4iqt2v35hq25mnf@4ax.com>
>References: 
>
>Date: 28 Jul 2005 14:18:58 GMT
>------------------------------
>"Stupid is as stupid does." - Forrest Gump
>
>							Tavish The True



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On 23 Oct 2006 12:04:30 -0500, The Chief Instigator 
wrote:
>chester_field@fastmail.fm writes:
>>On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:46:04 +1000, "Benjie"
>> wrote:

>>>Let's see how long it takes for Humpyboi to respond. He's just so obsessed 
>>>with all posts having anything to do with Scott.

>>Isn't Humpbois the guy that got fired from Rice U. for using school
>>computers to harass Mr. Bradbury?	

>I was fired at Rice, but it had nothing to do with the Bloat of Bellvile.
>Enjoy your fantasy, as it's about all you have.

You got fired because a lot of other people called the US Attorney, 
and then he called Rice U as well.....


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A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in Holland!!

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC 
 wrote:

Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have 
approved special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get 
their just punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
since many US states, and foreign countries are
starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
of televising executions.

A few more thoughts on the subject.

The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
not only determine the method of execution, but should also
have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
but not limited to such, would include:

         AIDS spreaders
         rapists
         drug dealers
         home invaders
         armed robbers
         pederasts and similar child molesters
         crooked liars/lawyers
         corrupt judges
         corrupt politicians
         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
              criminals being released
Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
                obviously  include most faggots
        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
         vivisection
         medical experiments without anaesthetic
         target practice for police and military
         beheading
         hanging
         barbecueing by electrocution
         drawing & quartering

Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
	guillotining, very popular in France
	flaying alive until dead
	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

More suggestions for both categories are invited.

I know many of you feel that despicable Desi should be
mentioned, so I have.

Which method for it would be most suitable??

Since Desi got himself fired, again, from his third job,
is he again dumpster-diving, and again on French welfare in Paris?

>>Or, did one of his many enemies finally try to use old DP to eliminate
>>the pervert? After all, paranoid Desi claims someone got murdered
>>near his residence. Could it have been another case of mistaken 
>>identity? Could it be true, that someone is really trying to get rid
>>of Desi?

>>By the way, Desi, TELL US MORE ABOUT THE BALTIMORE POLICE.

>>Did you get into more criminal activities, like you did before getting
>>fired 3 times by angry employers, such as Scottish Power, and Grolier
>?

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
George Orwell

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
-John Bryant

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molester, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouching out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>And some MORAL ameriKKKan multi-national
>>>could be the "Prime Sponsor"!

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes



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The more than 100 MILLION killed by ZYD COMMUNISM in the USSR, far outweighs
the few hundred thousand ZYDS who died in WWII.

The 33 millions who perished in the Ukraine alone gave the Ukrainians cause to
really dislike the ZYD kommissars and their henchmen, when they had a chance
to retaliate in the Great Patriotic war.


On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:07:02 GMT, dk@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
>In article <1184200078.353876.126670@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, 
alejandro de tacobell  wrote:
>>it's often been said that the holocaust was uniquely horrific while
>>mass killings under communism was just run-of-the-mill, only on a
>>larger scale. supposedly, nothing like the holocaust had ever happened
>>before or since.

>>jews can criticize, condemn, ridicule, mock, and spit on aspects of
>>non-jewish culture but we cannot criticize anything about jews, jewish
>>history, jewish values, jewish influence. this must change.

>The usual Tony Gaza's mental diarrhea.





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> could become a prophet !!


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You are a certifiable piece of merde!!

The murders of almost 100 MILLION UKRAINIANS was in the 1930's, when the ZYD
KOMMISSARS RAN THE CHEKA & NKVD!!


On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:51:13 +1000, Reargunner  wrote:

>In 1920 the Ukrainian was under the White Russian, the communist did not 
>take over till afterwards. If you really were from the Ukrainian you 
>would know that!

>> > In article ,
>> > JimDavidson@usenetexchange.com says...
>> >> The more than 100 MILLION killed by ZYD COMMUNISM in the USSR, far 
>> >> outweighs the few hundred thousand ZYDS who died in WWII.

>> >> The 33 millions who perished in the Ukraine alone gave the Ukrainians 
>> >> cause to really dislike the ZYD kommissars and their henchmen, when they had a 
>> >> chance to retaliate in the Great Patriotic war.

>> >> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:07:02 GMT, dk@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >In article <1184200078.353876.126670@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> alejandro de tacobell  wrote:
>> >> >>it's often been said that the holocaust was uniquely horrific while
>> >> >>mass killings under communism was just run-of-the-mill, only on a
>> >> >>larger scale. supposedly, nothing like the holocaust had ever happened
>> >> >>before or since.

>> >> >>jews can criticize, condemn, ridicule, mock, and spit on aspects of
>> >> >>non-jewish culture but we cannot criticize anything about jews, jewish
>> >> >>history, jewish values, jewish influence. this must change.

>> > When the communist took over the Ukrainian, the first ones driven out
>> > were the Jews.

>> Fucking liar! My father's family were murdered by the Jewish Commissars. 
>> When communists took over Ukraine in 1920, 97 out of 103 CHEKA commissars 
>> were Jews. 




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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:13:59 GMT, Ned Kelly 
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:05:11 -0600, John Fleming  wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:18:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>>the scriptorium "Canuck57" 
>>wrote:
>>> $"John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>>> $news:dqh7i3tpasn3o6gfqk766le9oa4pios9c5@4ax.com...

>>> $> Let's face it.  If the gas is costing you $100 for the round
>>> $> trip, it doesn't make sense to travel to the US to save $50
>>> $> on a $200 DVD player.

>>> $Fill up while in the US.  Their gasoline isn't taxed as much.

>>Sure.  That cuts your "shipping costs" a bit.

>>> $> Now if you are buying an entire surround sound home
>>> $> entertainment system, that's another matter.  Anyway, with a
>>> $> lot of electronics being produced in Japan, don't expect low
>>> $> prices in the US to stay low if they are importing the stuff
>>> $> with forex involving a more expensive Yen.

>>> $Quite true.  If not North American made, or at least assembled their may 
>>> $also be duty.  But say duty was 6%, you will likely still save.  Might want 
>>> $to take advantage of the short term dip that has expanded this margin.  Plus 
>>> $I can never remember electronics costing more in the US, even with current 
>>> $currency variations at play.

>>> $I also don't know, but do states like Michigan, NY, Ohio etc. refund or 
>>> $exempt foreign shoppers from local sales taxes.  In Montana I don't worry 
>>> $about it. 

>>Sales tax exemptions/redemptions might make things a bit
>>more attractive to someone living close to the border.  But
>>for a one day trip you only get something like, IIRC a duty
>>exemption on the first $50 in purchases when you make a one
>>day shopping trip to the US.

>>So if you are going to slip across the border on a shopping
>>trip, you have to factor all these additional costs into the
>>price paid for goods.

>Careful shoppers will arrange for at least 2 days in the USA, which gives $200
>per person duty free.

>For a week, one gets $750 per person duty free, with food items duty free as
>well.

For car buyers interested in deals in Great Falls Montana, the following will
help:

If anyone is interested in a listing and more information you can point them
to DexKnows.com and search "Auto" in Great Falls, MT.  
There are just too many to list.
 
Hope this helps,
  
Tyler Spangelo
Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director
Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce
100 1st Ave N
Great Falls, MT 59401
(406)-761-4434, ext 103
Facsimile (406)-761-6129
tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org


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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:43:36 GMT, Ned Kelly 
wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:13:59 GMT, Ned Kelly 
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:05:11 -0600, John Fleming  wrote:
>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:18:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>>>the scriptorium "Canuck57" 
>>>wrote:
>>>> $"John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>>>> $news:dqh7i3tpasn3o6gfqk766le9oa4pios9c5@4ax.com...
>
>>>> $> Let's face it.  If the gas is costing you $100 for the round
>>>> $> trip, it doesn't make sense to travel to the US to save $50
>>>> $> on a $200 DVD player.
>
>>>> $Fill up while in the US.  Their gasoline isn't taxed as much.
>
>>>Sure.  That cuts your "shipping costs" a bit.
>
>>>> $> Now if you are buying an entire surround sound home
>>>> $> entertainment system, that's another matter.  Anyway, with a
>>>> $> lot of electronics being produced in Japan, don't expect low
>>>> $> prices in the US to stay low if they are importing the stuff
>>>> $> with forex involving a more expensive Yen.
>
>>>> $Quite true.  If not North American made, or at least assembled their may 
>>>> $also be duty.  But say duty was 6%, you will likely still save.  Might want 
>>>> $to take advantage of the short term dip that has expanded this margin.  Plus 
>>>> $I can never remember electronics costing more in the US, even with current 
>>>> $currency variations at play.
>
>>>> $I also don't know, but do states like Michigan, NY, Ohio etc. refund or 
>>>> $exempt foreign shoppers from local sales taxes.  In Montana I don't worry 
>>>> $about it. 
>
>>>Sales tax exemptions/redemptions might make things a bit
>>>more attractive to someone living close to the border.  But
>>>for a one day trip you only get something like, IIRC a duty
>>>exemption on the first $50 in purchases when you make a one
>>>day shopping trip to the US.
>
>>>So if you are going to slip across the border on a shopping
>>>trip, you have to factor all these additional costs into the
>>>price paid for goods.
>
>>Careful shoppers will arrange for at least 2 days in the USA, which gives $200
>>per person duty free.
>
>>For a week, one gets $750 per person duty free, with food items duty free as
>>well.

>For car buyers interested in deals in Great Falls Montana, the following will
>help:

>If anyone is interested in a listing and more information you can point them
>to DexKnows.com and search "Auto" in Great Falls, MT.  
>There are just too many to list.

>Hope this helps,

>Tyler Spangelo
>Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director
>Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce
>100 1st Ave N
>Great Falls, MT 59401
>(406)-761-4434, ext 103
>Facsimile (406)-761-6129
>tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org

As for the organized shopping tours you may want to contact the two people
listed below and see if it would be an option.  I know it would have to
probably be a contract deal, however if a group was interested in splitting a
fee it may work in their benefit.

The first contact would be Carol Place and she runs a Historic Trolley and
provides tours of the Great Falls area.  Again I don’t know if she would
contract out a shopping tour or not.  Her contact number is 406-771-1100.  The
second one I can point you to would be Carol Lindseth with Odyssey Travel and
she may have some connections within her industry to assist with a shopping
tour.  Her contact number is 406-761-1343.

 

Anything else you need, you know where to find me.

 

Thank you,

 

 

Tyler Spangelo

Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director

Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce

100 1st Ave N

Great Falls, MT 59401

(406)-761-4434, ext 103

Facsimile (406)-761-6129

tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org




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For those with cash, with the US$-C$ now at $1.0485, it is a great time to
pick up US$, and head off to the USA to buy vehicles, and also do all the
Christmas shopping there at the same time.

I have over a dozen Clients doing that this week, so far.

My son and his wife jhave just retruend after a splendiferous week in the USa,
sopending lots of money, at bargain prices compared to the ripoffs in Canada!1


On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:01:50 -0700, Loaf of Bread 
wrote:
>On Oct 29, 10:41 am, Ned Kelly  wrote:

>Hey Growsee!!

>I didn't think you had any money to spend anywhere in Canada or the
>US.



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For those with cash, with the US$-C$ now at $1.049, it is a great time to pick
up US$, and head off to the USA to buy vehicles, boats and also do all the
Christmas shopping there at the same time.

I have over a dozen Clients doing that this week, so far.

My son and his wife jhave just returned after a splendiferous week in the USA,
spending lots of money, at bargain prices compared to the ripoffs in Canada!


On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:01:50 -0700, Loaf of Bread 
wrote:
>On Oct 29, 10:41 am, Ned Kelly  wrote:

>Hey Growsee!!

>I didn't think you had any money to spend anywhere in Canada or the
>US.



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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:43:36 GMT, Ned Kelly 
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:13:59 GMT, Ned Kelly 
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:05:11 -0600, John Fleming  wrote:
>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:18:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>>>the scriptorium "Canuck57" 
>>>wrote:
>>>> $"John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>>>> $news:dqh7i3tpasn3o6gfqk766le9oa4pios9c5@4ax.com...

>>>> $> Let's face it.  If the gas is costing you $100 for the round
>>>> $> trip, it doesn't make sense to travel to the US to save $50
>>>> $> on a $200 DVD player.

>>>> $Fill up while in the US.  Their gasoline isn't taxed as much.
>
>>>Sure.  That cuts your "shipping costs" a bit.

>>>> $> Now if you are buying an entire surround sound home
>>>> $> entertainment system, that's another matter.  Anyway, with a
>>>> $> lot of electronics being produced in Japan, don't expect low
>>>> $> prices in the US to stay low if they are importing the stuff
>>>> $> with forex involving a more expensive Yen.

>>>> $Quite true.  If not North American made, or at least assembled their may 
>>>> $also be duty.  But say duty was 6%, you will likely still save.  Might want 
>>>> $to take advantage of the short term dip that has expanded this margin.  Plus 
>>>> $I can never remember electronics costing more in the US, even with current 
>>>> $currency variations at play.

>>>> $I also don't know, but do states like Michigan, NY, Ohio etc. refund or 
>>>> $exempt foreign shoppers from local sales taxes.  In Montana I don't worry 
>>>> $about it. 

>>>Sales tax exemptions/redemptions might make things a bit
>>>more attractive to someone living close to the border.  But
>>>for a one day trip you only get something like, IIRC a duty
>>>exemption on the first $50 in purchases when you make a one
>>>day shopping trip to the US.

>>>So if you are going to slip across the border on a shopping
>>>trip, you have to factor all these additional costs into the
>>>price paid for goods.

>>Careful shoppers will arrange for at least 2 days in the USA, which gives $400
>>per person duty free.

>>For a week, one gets $750 per person duty free, with food items duty free as
>>well.

>For car buyers interested in deals in Great Falls Montana, the following will
>help:

>If anyone is interested in a listing and more information you can point them
>to DexKnows.com and search "Auto" in Great Falls, MT.  
>There are just too many to list.

>Hope this helps,

>Tyler Spangelo
>Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director
>Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce
>100 1st Ave N
>Great Falls, MT 59401
>(406)-761-4434, ext 103
>Facsimile (406)-761-6129
>tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org

As for the organized shopping tours you may want to contact the two people
listed below and see if it would be an option.  I know it would have to
probably be a contract deal, however if a group was interested in splitting a
fee it may work in their benefit.

The first contact would be Carol Place and she runs a Historic Trolley and
provides tours of the Great Falls area.  Again I don’t know if she would
contract out a shopping tour or not.  Her contact number is 406-771-1100.  The
second one I can point you to would be Carol Lindseth with Odyssey Travel and
she may have some connections within her industry to assist with a shopping
tour.  Her contact number is 406-761-1343.

Anything else you need, you know where to find me.

Thank you,
Tyler Spangelo

Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director

Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce

100 1st Ave N

Great Falls, MT 59401

(406)-761-4434, ext 103

Facsimile (406)-761-6129

tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org




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When you shop in Bellingham or Seattle, don't you stock up on food items such
as bacon, eggs, milk, butter and so on, usually selling in the USA for around
HALF, and sometimes even less, because they do not have the canuck 
communist marketing boards?

Considering the half hour or so to get to Bellingham, compared with the time
to get to the airport - almost the same, it most definitely is worth the trip
across the border.

Even ham radio equipment is much cheaper in the USA!

I agree that saving 50% is great, but on big ticket items, even the 30% saving
makes the trip worthwhile!

Cars, boats, skidoos, computers, expensive photographic equipment, home
electronics, etc.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:50:39 -0700, laura halliday 
wrote:

>I live in suburban Vancouver, but find that the hour-plus border
>lineups make it unattractive to go to Bellingham or Seattle.

>On my last trip diesel in Seattle worked out to about $CDN 0.85
>a litre, which is indeed less than in Vancouver, but hardly worth
>the hassle.

>My criteria for buying something south of the line remain:
>50% off the Canadian price, or just plain unobtainable.

>Computer stuff is actually often cheaper in Vancouver,
>BTW, unless you hit a sale at Fry's.

>Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
>Grid: CN89mg                    uncoordinated."
>ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W       - Nomad the Network Engineer



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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:17:18 GMT, Josh S  wrote:
>In article ,
> Ned Kelly  wrote:

>> When you shop in Bellingham or Seattle, don't you stock up on food items such
>> as bacon, eggs, milk, butter and so on, usually selling in the USA for around
>> HALF, and sometimes even less, because they do not have the canuck 
>> communist marketing boards?
>Definitely not; higher food standards in Canada.

Absolutely false.
Just check at Costco, or your local supermarket, for meats for example
imported from USA.
Fruits and vegetables imported from USA.

They must meet the same standards in both Canada and the US.

>> Considering the half hour or so to get to Bellingham, compared with the time
>> to get to the airport - almost the same, it most definitely is worth the trip
>> across the border.
>Add on 1+ hrs to cross the border on top of 45 minutes to the border 
>from  central Vancouver.

Sensible shoppers avoid the long lineups, by crossing in non-peak hours,
unlike the stupid poster who insists on rush hour.

>> Even ham radio equipment is much cheaper in the USA!
>Who uses that anymore?

Lots of people have ham rigs, to use in case of an emergency, when phone lines
are out.

>> I agree that saving 50% is great, but on big ticket items, even the 30% saving
>> makes the trip worthwhile!

>> Cars, boats, skidoos,
>Yes, cheaper in the USA.

>> computers, expensive photographic equipment, home
>> electronics, etc.
>Definitely no, similar prices here in Vancouver if you shop a bit.

Just check the internet ads, and see the prices are much lower in the USA!!



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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:21:29 GMT, Josh S  wrote:
>In article ,
> "Canuck57"  wrote:

>> You must be one of those inept retailers screwing Canadians.

>> Hey, I have imported before, I kid you not.  Get your paperwork in order and 
>> screw Canadian retailers who gouge us. 

>Avoid the cross border car buying hassle.
>A car dealer in the Vancouver area is now importing current year used 
>USA cars, upgrading them for Canada, then selling them at USA prices.
>Being used there should be no warranty problem in Canada.
>See Eagle Ridge GM.  Great web site too.

Cameron is in charge of the internet sales there, and has a toll-free #:
1-800-916-2166

They are located in Coquitlam, a suburb of Vancouver, and claim their pricing
saves you having to buy in the USA.

You can check deals on their website, then call Cameron.



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From: Ned Kelly 
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TV news reports are now indicating that the former trickle of shoppers going
to the USA because of fantastically better prices, has now become a flood.

With Christmas shopping starting now, with less than 60 days to the Christmas
holidays, Canadian retailers, especially those trying to peddle their
overpriced cars, boats, skidoos, electronics, clothing, and you name it,
are now getting really scared.

Their impending bankruptcies loom ever closer, as they see huge line-up at
border crossings.

When cars in the USa cost $10,000 to $60,000 LESS than in price fixing Canada,
of course people are going to buy where it benefits the buyers.

Loaded top of the line trucks and SUVs can have a saving of $30,000 to $60,000
on the top end models, and Canuck dealers refuse to lower their prices,
driving more and more customers to shop across the broder, for ALL their
Christmas shopping.

When crooked Canadian firms like Bombardier then instruct their US dealers to
swindle Canadian buyers, they deserve the growing BOYCOTT.

When Amazon.ca charges almost DOUBLE for a Canadian book, in Canada, 
than what they charge when bought from Amazon.com, then their Canadian
operation deserves to be BOYCOTTED.

Now, many cities in the USA are starting to organise Christmas shopping
packages, to entice even more Canadians to spend their money in the 
welcoming USA.

Las Vegas and Reno Nevada have long had discount packages to bring them
Canadians.

Now Seattle and Bellingham in Washington state are doing likewise, and even
Great Falls Montana is starting to get organised for a massive influx of
Canadian shoppers.

On the east coast, communities in New York, Vermont, and New Hampshire are
also encouraging Canadians to buy everything they want in the USA, at
drastically lower prices than in Canada.

To all those gouging businesses in Canada, when you go bankrupt at Christmas
time, do not expect any sympathy, because you do not deserve any, even if you
do increase the unemployment rolls with your unemployed staffers.

If some of the groups co-ordinating shopping package tours from Canada to the
USA want even more happy customers, let all of us know, by posting your names,
locations, and special deals - to the newsgroups.


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When you shop in Bellingham or Seattle, don't you stock up on food items such
as bacon, eggs, milk, butter and so on, usually selling in the USA for around
HALF, and sometimes even less, because they do not have the canuck 
communist marketing boards?

Considering the half hour or so to get to Bellingham, compared with the time
to get to the airport - almost the same, it most definitely is worth the trip
across the border.

Even ham radio equipment is much cheaper in the USA!

I agree that saving 50% is great, but on big ticket items, even the 30% saving
makes the trip worthwhile!

Cars, boats, skidoos, computers, expensive photographic equipment, home
electronics, etc.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:50:39 -0700, laura halliday 
wrote:

>I live in suburban Vancouver, but find that the hour-plus border
>lineups make it unattractive to go to Bellingham or Seattle.

>On my last trip diesel in Seattle worked out to about $CDN 0.85
>a litre, which is indeed less than in Vancouver, but hardly worth
>the hassle.

>My criteria for buying something south of the line remain:
>50% off the Canadian price, or just plain unobtainable.

>Computer stuff is actually often cheaper in Vancouver,
>BTW, unless you hit a sale at Fry's.

>Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
>Grid: CN89mg                    uncoordinated."
>ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W       - Nomad the Network Engineer



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Finally, the Canadian government has shown some 'cojones'.

Where previously, convicted murderers and similar serious criminals 
facing the death penalty in a foreign jurisdiction , could expect the
government of Canada to ask for them to be repatriated to serve time 
in a Canadian "Club Fed" facility, now the Canadian government have 
officialy rescinded this useless policy.

Killers, rapists, child molesters, druggies, armed robbers and similar
denizens can now expect the death penalty in many jurisdictions
including many states in the uSa, as well as many sensible countries
throughout Asia.

At least those places executing criminals realise that an executed criminal
will never re-offend, and if executed promptly, will not cost that much in
incarceration costs either.

There are already a few nervous Canadian criminals in US prisons awaiting
their executions, so the Canadian taxpayers will now not have to worry about
costs for them.


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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:17:18 GMT, Josh S  wrote:
>In article ,
> Ned Kelly  wrote:

>> When you shop in Bellingham or Seattle, don't you stock up on food items such
>> as bacon, eggs, milk, butter and so on, usually selling in the USA for around
>> HALF, and sometimes even less, because they do not have the canuck 
>> communist marketing boards?
>Definitely not; higher food standards in Canada.

Absolutely false.
Just check at Costco, or your local supermarket, for meats for example
imported from USA.
Fruits and vegetables imported from USA.

They must meet the same standards in both Canada and the US.

>> Considering the half hour or so to get to Bellingham, compared with the time
>> to get to the airport - almost the same, it most definitely is worth the trip
>> across the border.
>Add on 1+ hrs to cross the border on top of 45 minutes to the border 
>from  central Vancouver.

Sensible shoppers avoid the long lineups, by crossing in non-peak hours,
unlike the stupid poster who insists on rush hour.

>> Even ham radio equipment is much cheaper in the USA!
>Who uses that anymore?

Lots of people have ham rigs, to use in case of an emergency, when phone lines
are out.

>> I agree that saving 50% is great, but on big ticket items, even the 30% saving
>> makes the trip worthwhile!

>> Cars, boats, skidoos,
>Yes, cheaper in the USA.

>> computers, expensive photographic equipment, home
>> electronics, etc.
>Definitely no, similar prices here in Vancouver if you shop a bit.

Just check the internet ads, and see the prices are much lower in the USA!!



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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:13:59 GMT, Ned Kelly 
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:05:11 -0600, John Fleming  wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:18:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in
>>the scriptorium "Canuck57" 
>>wrote:
>>> $"John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>>> $news:dqh7i3tpasn3o6gfqk766le9oa4pios9c5@4ax.com...

>>> $> Let's face it.  If the gas is costing you $100 for the round
>>> $> trip, it doesn't make sense to travel to the US to save $50
>>> $> on a $200 DVD player.

>>> $Fill up while in the US.  Their gasoline isn't taxed as much.

>>Sure.  That cuts your "shipping costs" a bit.

>>> $> Now if you are buying an entire surround sound home
>>> $> entertainment system, that's another matter.  Anyway, with a
>>> $> lot of electronics being produced in Japan, don't expect low
>>> $> prices in the US to stay low if they are importing the stuff
>>> $> with forex involving a more expensive Yen.

>>> $Quite true.  If not North American made, or at least assembled their may 
>>> $also be duty.  But say duty was 6%, you will likely still save.  Might want 
>>> $to take advantage of the short term dip that has expanded this margin.  Plus 
>>> $I can never remember electronics costing more in the US, even with current 
>>> $currency variations at play.

>>> $I also don't know, but do states like Michigan, NY, Ohio etc. refund or 
>>> $exempt foreign shoppers from local sales taxes.  In Montana I don't worry 
>>> $about it. 

>>Sales tax exemptions/redemptions might make things a bit
>>more attractive to someone living close to the border.  But
>>for a one day trip you only get something like, IIRC a duty
>>exemption on the first $50 in purchases when you make a one
>>day shopping trip to the US.

>>So if you are going to slip across the border on a shopping
>>trip, you have to factor all these additional costs into the
>>price paid for goods.

>Careful shoppers will arrange for at least 2 days in the USA, which gives $200
>per person duty free.

>For a week, one gets $750 per person duty free, with food items duty free as
>well.

For car buyers interested in deals in Great Falls Montana, the following will
help:

If anyone is interested in a listing and more information you can point them
to DexKnows.com and search "Auto" in Great Falls, MT.  
There are just too many to list.
 
Hope this helps,
  
Tyler Spangelo
Convention & Visitors Bureau / Communications Director
Great Falls Area Chamber of Commerce
100 1st Ave N
Great Falls, MT 59401
(406)-761-4434, ext 103
Facsimile (406)-761-6129
tspangelo@greatfallschamber.org


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When you shop in Bellingham or Seattle, don't you stock up on food items such
as bacon, eggs, milk, butter and so on, usually selling in the USA for around
HALF, and sometimes even less, because they do not have the canuck 
communist marketing boards?

Considering the half hour or so to get to Bellingham, compared with the time
to get to the airport - almost the same, it most definitely is worth the trip
across the border.

Even ham radio equipment is much cheaper in the USA!

I agree that saving 50% is great, but on big ticket items, even the 30% saving
makes the trip worthwhile!

Cars, boats, skidoos, computers, expensive photographic equipment, home
electronics, etc.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:50:39 -0700, laura halliday 
wrote:

>I live in suburban Vancouver, but find that the hour-plus border
>lineups make it unattractive to go to Bellingham or Seattle.

>On my last trip diesel in Seattle worked out to about $CDN 0.85
>a litre, which is indeed less than in Vancouver, but hardly worth
>the hassle.

>My criteria for buying something south of the line remain:
>50% off the Canadian price, or just plain unobtainable.

>Computer stuff is actually often cheaper in Vancouver,
>BTW, unless you hit a sale at Fry's.

>Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
>Grid: CN89mg                    uncoordinated."
>ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W       - Nomad the Network Engineer



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TV news reports are now indicating that the former trickle of shoppers going
to the USA because of fantastically better prices, has now become a flood.

With Christmas shopping starting now, with less than 60 days to the Christmas
holidays, Canadian retailers, especially those trying to peddle their
overpriced cars, boats, skidoos, electronics, clothing, and you name it,
are now getting really scared.

Their impending bankruptcies loom ever closer, as they see huge line-up at
border crossings.

When cars in the USa cost $10,000 to $60,000 LESS than in price fixing Canada,
of course people are going to buy where it benefits the buyers.

Loaded top of the line trucks and SUVs can have a saving of $30,000 to $60,000
on the top end models, and Canuck dealers refuse to lower their prices,
driving more and more customers to shop across the broder, for ALL their
Christmas shopping.

When crooked Canadian firms like Bombardier then instruct their US dealers to
swindle Canadian buyers, they deserve the growing BOYCOTT.

When Amazon.ca charges almost DOUBLE for a Canadian book, in Canada, 
than what they charge when bought from Amazon.com, then their Canadian
operation deserves to be BOYCOTTED.

Now, many cities in the USA are starting to organise Christmas shopping
packages, to entice even more Canadians to spend their money in the 
welcoming USA.

Las Vegas and Reno Nevada have long had discount packages to bring them
Canadians.

Now Seattle and Bellingham in Washington state are doing likewise, and even
Great Falls Montana is starting to get organised for a massive influx of
Canadian shoppers.

On the east coast, communities in New York, Vermont, and New Hampshire are
also encouraging Canadians to buy everything they want in the USA, at
drastically lower prices than in Canada.

To all those gouging businesses in Canada, when you go bankrupt at Christmas
time, do not expect any sympathy, because you do not deserve any, even if you
do increase the unemployment rolls with your unemployed staffers.

If some of the groups co-ordinating shopping package tours from Canada to the
USA want even more happy customers, let all of us know, by posting your names,
locations, and special deals - to the newsgroups.


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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:01:42 -0700, bluedevil_1950@yahoo.com wrote:
>On Oct 25, 3:51 pm, Ned Kelly  wrote:
>> For those manufacturers and retailers who refuse to match US prices,
>> they will be the subject of massive BOYCOTTS.
>>
>> As they go bankrupt because of lack of sales, their staff will be able to
>> blame the greedy managers for the loss of their jobs.
>>
>> With the C$ now worth more than the US$, it is now so easy to go online
>> and order anything from the USA, and save lots of money.
>>
>> With Canadian shoppers flocking to the USA to do their Christmas shopping,
>> spending millions there, there will be lots of bankrupt Canadian businesses.
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:29:16 -0700, Leftists = traitors 
>> wrote:

>> >Make less money per sale, or NO money at all.  Get your prices in-line
>> >or go bankrupt.  Work on the philosophy (so successfully implemented
>> >in the U.S.) of selling a lot for a small profit each, instead of
>> >small numbers of products for huge profits.  This should allow you to
>> >make MORE money in the long run since there is less competition here
>> >than in the the U.S.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Also keep in mind. When all those Canadian businesses go bankrupt and
>their employees lose their jobs, YOUR taxes will increase so the
>government can look after them.
>It's a double edged sword.

Most seniors do not make enough, to have to pay taxes, so let the greedy
Canadian businesses go bankrupt.

By the way, the unemployed business owners will have to go on welfare, 
without being entitled to collect EI.



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On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:32:08 -0400, Johannes von Ebersdorf
 wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:32:22 GMT, Ned Kelly
> wrote:

>>Finally, the Canadian government has shown some 'cojones'.

>>Where previously, convicted murderers and similar serious criminals 
>>facing the death penalty in a foreign jurisdiction , could expect the
>>government of Canada to ask for them to be repatriated to serve time 
>>in a Canadian "Club Fed" facility, now the Canadian government have 
>>officialy rescinded this useless policy.

>>Killers, rapists, child molesters, druggies, armed robbers and similar
>>denizens can now expect the death penalty in many jurisdictions
>>including many states in the USA, as well as many sensible countries
>>throughout Asia.

>>At least those places executing criminals realise that an executed criminal
>>will never re-offend, and if executed promptly, will not cost that much in
>>incarceration costs either.

>>There are already a few nervous Canadian criminals in US prisons awaiting
>>their executions, so the Canadian taxpayers will now not have to worry about
>>costs for them.

>So, great mind, how does your model deal with the large number of
>false convictions?

>There is simply no accountability for the death sentence. The people
>who send an innocent person to the gallows just shrug and go on with
>their lives.

>Accountability would, at minimum, involve the jury, the incompetent
>police officers that investigated the case, and the trial judge
>following their victim to the gallows. Any justice officials from the
>highest to the lowest that had any part in executing an innocent
>person should be subjected to summary execution with a revolver shot
>to the back of the head, preferrably on a public sidewalk in full view
>of passers-by.

The decision of a jury is based on whatever evidence is presented, whether by
the prosecution, or the defence counsel.

I agree with your sentiment that the lawyers involved in a false conviction,
together with all the crooked cops, and the judge, should likewise follow the
executed person into extermination.

>With that system in place, juries and judges would be really careful
>about handing out death sentences, which is as it should be.

>Executions have no place in civilized societies.

On the contrary, an executed criminal will never re-offend!



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Why is Steven Harper refusing to have RCMP prosecute his mentor 
Brian Mulroney for CRIMINAL PERJURY regarding the Airbus Affair?

With CBC documenting the bribery with documents and testimony from 
Karl-Heinz Schreiber, what is Harpo covering up?

Was Harpo also involved at some time?
Is that why he will not have the RCMP arrest Mulroney?


On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:44:49 GMT, in can.general "a.wilson" 
wrote:

I'm disappointed at Canada's reaction, nobody seems to give two shits (other
than the opposition windbags in Parliament.)

Mulroney, according to everything I've read, lied to Canada and perjured
himself.  We apologized and paid the guy $2.1million.  How can the
conservative government sit on their hands through this.  I'm shaking my
head.

We can't let stuff like this go, this is the start of a slippery slope.  We
need to be writing/emailing/calling our MPs about this - if this slides then
the Canadian public has sent a message, loud and clear, that we'll allow
this kind of blatant corruption.  And if we'll allow this kind of blatant
corruption, then someone will try something a little bit bigger.  And so
on..

For an example of what happens when a country lets little things go for
years, see the current massive sleaze/bribery/fraud in the USA.

I can't vote for Dion.  I'm a supporter of the Conservatives, but if the
Harper government doesn't do anything about this then I can't vote for him.
Jack Layton?


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Why is Steven Harper refusing to have RCMP prosecute his mentor 
Brian Mulroney for CRIMINAL PERJURY regarding the Airbus Affair?

With CBC documenting the bribery with documents and testimony from 
Karl-Heinz Schreiber, what is Harpo covering up?

Was Harpo also involved at some time?
Is that why he will not have the RCMP arrest Mulroney?


On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:44:49 GMT, in can.general "a.wilson" 
wrote:

I'm disappointed at Canada's reaction, nobody seems to give two shits (other
than the opposition windbags in Parliament.)

Mulroney, according to everything I've read, lied to Canada and perjured
himself.  We apologized and paid the guy $2.1million.  How can the
conservative government sit on their hands through this.  I'm shaking my
head.

We can't let stuff like this go, this is the start of a slippery slope.  We
need to be writing/emailing/calling our MPs about this - if this slides then
the Canadian public has sent a message, loud and clear, that we'll allow
this kind of blatant corruption.  And if we'll allow this kind of blatant
corruption, then someone will try something a little bit bigger.  And so
on..

For an example of what happens when a country lets little things go for
years, see the current massive sleaze/bribery/fraud in the USA.

I can't vote for Dion.  I'm a supporter of the Conservatives, but if the
Harper government doesn't do anything about this then I can't vote for him.
Jack Layton?


On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:47:24 -0400, "Len McLaughlin"  wrote:

>MULRONEY PROBE WOULD BE COSTLY
>CHANTAL HEBERT
>NATIONAL AFFAIRS
>Published Monday November 5th, 2007
>Appeared on page A7
>It is excessively rare for a party in opposition to ask for a public inquiry
>into events that took place on its watch as a government and even rarer for
>the prime minister of the day to resist the temptation to say yes.
>
>Yet that is exactly what happened this week when the Liberals called on
>Prime Minister Stephen Harper to revisit a $2.1 million settlement awarded
>to Brian Mulroney in 1997.
>
>Back then, Jean Chrétien's government had to apologize publicly for linking
>Mulroney's name to a criminal investigation involving German businessman
>Karlheinz Schreiber. At the time, Mulroney insisted he had had no dealings
>with Schreiber. Since then, much contrary information has come to light.
>
>The former prime minister did receive $300,000 in cash from Schreiber for
>unspecified services in 1993-94. This week the CBC and The Globe and Mail
>reported that Mulroney reported those earnings to Revenue Canada only years
>after the fact. The payments were not in the picture at the time of his
>libel suit.
>
>The issue is not whether the former prime minister engaged in criminal
>activities. After years of digging, the RCMP has closed its investigation in
>the matter. There is no evidence that Mulroney knew that the source of the
>money he got from Schreiber was potentially tainted.
>
>Revenue Canada is also satisfied that Mulroney's tax affairs are in order.
>
>But that still leaves open the question of whether he would have received a
>multi-million-dollar settlement in 1997 if the justice department had known
>then what it knows now.
>
>The opposition may be right in arguing that it would take an inquiry to get
>a comprehensive answer. Mulroney, who devoted more than 1,000 pages to his
>recently published memoirs, did not mention Schreiber or the lingering
>controversy once.
>
>But closure on the matter would come at a high price. A public inquiry would
>cost more than the amount at stake. A lot of taxpayers' money would end up
>lining the pockets of an army of lawyers.
>
>It is fair to ask whether the partisan hope of scoring a few points on the
>Conservatives rather than public interest is driving Liberal calls for an
>inquiry. By the same token, it is also fair to wonder whether Harper would
>be more zealous in searching for the truth if Mulroney did not happen to be
>one of the father figures of his party.
>
>In theory, the Prime Minister has more than enough degrees of separation
>from Mulroney to weather any finding about his Tory predecessor. Harper had
>no input in the decision to compensate him. At the time, he was not even a
>member of the same party. While some of his current MPs - including
>Attorney-General Rob Nicholson - were first elected under Mulroney, none
>held senior positions in his regime.
>
>But the former prime minister remains a central figure in the Conservative
>party. That is particularly - but not exclusively - true in Quebec, where
>the Airbus controversy never had much resonance. Mulroney also bridges the
>sensitive fault line that still separates many former Tories from their
>ex-Reform foes within the reunited party.
>
>As Prime Minister, Harper would have no cause to fear the conclusions of a
>public inquiry into Mulroney's past dealings with the Chrétien government,
>but as leader, he would greatly upset his party's fragile balance by
>ordering one.
>
>Chantal Hebert is a syndicated columnist for the Toronto Star. She is a
>regular contributor to the opinion section.
>
>
>



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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:22:57 -0700, Sheldon Liberman 
wrote:
Shellie, after 2 weeks you finally got around to reading the informative
article?

Then, you repost in full, so that we all can re-read all the info?

I am sure that the opponents of the KOSHER TAX thank you for this.


To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.thelastoutpost.com/site/1417/default.aspx

>> This interesting video gives lots of details about the KOSHER TAX, and all the
>> emblems used by the ZYDS on products showing they got paid the KOSHER TAX.

>> By the way, Heinz/Libby stopped paying the KOSHER TAX on many products,
>> according to articles published in Canadian Jew News!!

>> On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, gordo...@hotmail.com wrote:

>> >Jewish taxation without Gentile representation
>> >"A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>> >revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>> >food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>> >items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>> >from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>> >tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>> >metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>> >food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>> >medications.  And the question that the above revelations urgently
>> >presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax - if it may be
>> >so described - costs the average Canadian household each year.  Ten
>> >dollars?  A hundred dollars?  A thousand dollars?  What?  Why don't we
>> >know?  Why is there no way to find out?  Why isn't this a matter of
>> >public record?"
>> >Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:
>> >http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html
>> >Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:
>> >http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

>> Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>> MORE!

>> On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel  wrote:
>>
>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> qualified to do...

>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>> >From: norma2...@charter.net
>> >Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>> >Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>> >Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>> >"veranda"  wrote in message
>> >...
>> >> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since  it
>> >> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>> >> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>> >> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>> >> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost

>> >>  wrote in message
>> >>news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>> >> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost  would
>> >> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>> >veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>> >In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>> >must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>> >Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>> >you knew that !

>> >Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>> >we got our own  !  :)

>> >Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>> >something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>> >flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>> >doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>> >Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>> >meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>> >those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>> >day.)

>> >What would it save you--less than $10 a year.

Better the $10 or much more, kept in MY pockets, so I can spend as I wish,
rather than on extortion to the ZYDS!

>> >All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don't think that it
>> >is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>> >have demanded more money?

>> >Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>> >more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>> >Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>> >couldn't make any money either.


>> >On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin  wrote:
>> >Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>> >following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>> >The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>> >by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>> >La Voz de Aztlan

>> >Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>> >receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>> >and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>> >attention.

>> >Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>> >of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>> >printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>> >products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>> >do some research into the subject. What we found
>> >certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.

>> >On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>> >verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>> >most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>> >Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>> >similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>> >Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>> >container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>> >sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.

>> >We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>> >to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>> >Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>> >plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>> >most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>> >for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>> >products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>> >(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>> >until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>> >that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".

>> >We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>> >whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>> >other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>> >Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>> >the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>> >she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>> >but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>> >Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>> >products.

>> >What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>> >that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>> >amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>> >receive protection.

>> >This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>> >the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>> >the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>> >not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>> >other similar markings.

>> >Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>> >sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>> >perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>> >Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>> >western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>> >in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>> >(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>> >and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>> >Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>> >in New York City.

>> >The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>> >amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>> >Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>> >Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>> >full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.

>> >The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>> >approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>> >certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>> >boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>> >companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>> >dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>> >bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>> >on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>> >the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>> >of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.

>> >It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>> >manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>> >"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>> >Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.

>> >Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>> >large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>> >the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>> >up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>> >Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>> >lucrative salaries.
>> >The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>> >companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is

>People who profess a belief is a kosher tax do nothing but demonstrate
>why they are consigned to proffer their worthless opinions on internet
>newgroups. It's the only venue where people don't laugh in your face.



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